Basic loop to get me started

Minibiker

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Hi all

I've got a few cheaper parts for a system build and I'm thinking of watercooling the CPU only in this build...

I know I won't get much benefit from it but I'm basically just doing this to get practice in for when I do it properly on future builds, so any help will be appreciated

Parts in this build are:

Intel G4560
MSI B250M gaming board
16GB Team Group DDR4 3200mhz
EVGA 500w PSU

I'm looking to get some cheaper Watercoling bits from MM to go in this.. Could someone possibly give me a rough guide of what to look for please

Radiator
Pump/res combo
Fittings
Tubing

What else is needed other than fluid

Cheers for any input :)
 
240mm radiator probably a 120mm would work for that cpu but 240mm can be used for future build ~not aluminium don't mix metals in your loop
Any d5 variant pump
With a reservoir
Or a separate reservoir
Tubing either 3/8 inner
5/8 outer diameter
Or 1/2 and 3/4
Fittings sizes are dictated by tubing size
Edit
That's soft tubing sizes
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
240mm radiator probably a 120mm would work for that cpu but 240mm can be used for future build ~not aluminium don't mix metals in your loop
Any d5 variant pump
With a reservoir
Or a separate reservoir
Tubing either 3/8 inner
5/8 outer diameter
Or 1/2 and 3/4
Fittings sizes are dictated by tubing size
Edit
That's soft tubing sizes
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Cheers for that bud... The main thing I'm confused by is what size is best for tubing... I'd be doing soft tubing so I'm guessing whatever size tubing I get I must get the same measurements in fittings, correct?
 
Minibiker said:
Cheers for that bud... The main thing I'm confused by is what size is best for tubing... I'd be doing soft tubing so I'm guessing whatever size tubing I get I must get the same measurements in fittings, correct?
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The 2 sizes I said are most commonly used
Probably 3/8id and 5/8 od
Is more common of the 2
Or 10/16mm in metric it will be
Yes tubing size is same as fittings size
And almost anything that screws in is g1/4
Example you have a radiator and a bit of tube
The fitting has one end threaded
That's g1/4 and screws into radiator
Other end of fitting is 3/8 I'd 5/8od
And tubing goes on there
Also need biocide if coolant doesn't have it in it
Or a silver coil in reservoir instead
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
The 2 sizes I said are most commonly used
Probably 3/8id and 5/8 od
Is more common of the 2
Or 10/16mm in metric it will be
Yes tubing size is same as fittings size
And almost anything that screws in is g1/4
Example you have a radiator and a bit of tube
The fitting has one end threaded
That's g1/4 and screws into radiator
Other end of fitting is 3/8 I'd 5/8od
And tubing goes on there
Also need biocide if coolant doesn't have it in it
Or a silver coil in reservoir instead
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Thanks for the more detailed explanation, I'm sure I'll get to grips with it pretty sharpish... I'd rather give it a go as I will learn better that way, rather than just read about it..
 
Minibiker said:
Thanks for the more detailed explanation, I'm sure I'll get to grips with it pretty sharpish... I'd rather give it a go as I will learn better that way, rather than just read about it..
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Once you realise
The g1/4 measurement
Basically is any thing that screws in
Or the hole it gets screwed into
It's less confusing
As only need to know inner/outer diameter of fittings
As they 99% are all g1/4 the end that
Attaches to anything but tubing
So to radiator, reservoir, blocks etc
Remember to plan a drain point
A ball valve usually at lowest point
Possible
A T piece is usually used
So tubing for example in/out
And drain down wards on the third part of the T
 
This may be a little off-field compared to some responses, but how about buying a pre-configured kit (not an AIO/CLC, actual proper parts) where most of it's done for you? I've seen a few on the net for not a lot of money. Ultimately, what you're looking for is the experience and confidence of putting together a WC setup. You could do this for very little money and less effort with a simple pre-configured setup, tear it down and rebuild it a few times.

You could even ask on the MM if anyone has some parts left sat around they'd be willing to part with, you could probably get a low end block and radiator + tubing and a pump for under £50, I've seen basic CPU only kits for that new.
 
Gray2233 said:
This may be a little off-field compared to some responses, but how about buying a pre-configured kit (not an AIO/CLC, actual proper parts) where most of it's done for you? I've seen a few on the net for not a lot of money.

Ultimately, what you're looking for is the experience and confidence of putting together a WC setup. You could do this for very little money and less effort with a simple pre-configured setup, tear it down and rebuild it a few times.

You could even ask on the MM if anyone has some parts left sat around they'd be willing to part with, you could probably get a low end block and radiator + tubing and a pump for under £50.
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Cheers for the reply, your spot on with what you say about getting my confidence up with putting together a loop... I've posted in the wanted section on the MM so hopefully I'll get a reply... I'm hoping to find something for quite cheap to get me going with watercooling
 
Gray2233 said:
This may be a little off-field compared to some responses, but how about buying a pre-configured kit (not an AIO/CLC, actual proper parts) where most of it's done for you? I've seen a few on the net for not a lot of money. Ultimately, what you're looking for is the experience and confidence of putting together a WC setup. You could do this for very little money and less effort with a simple pre-configured setup, tear it down and rebuild it a few times.

You could even ask on the MM if anyone has some parts left sat around they'd be willing to part with, you could probably get a low end block and radiator + tubing and a pump for under £50, I've seen basic CPU only kits for that new.
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good idea
or if can get a swiftech
its an AIO but expandaple with quality components in it too
lot of us started with those
i did
 
Minibiker said:
Cheers for the reply, your spot on with what you say about getting my confidence up with putting together a loop... I've posted in the wanted section on the MM so hopefully I'll get a reply... I'm hoping to find something for quite cheap to get me going with watercooling
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WC seems scary at first but it really is about building yourself up.

There's a bunch of kits online that are basic enough, just for the CPU with very cheap/poor parts, but that's sort of besides the point in this scenario I think. You can mess about with them and get to grips for not a lot of cash, which will definitely help in the long run. Honestly, in my opinion the worst part is measuring and cutting the damn tubing, followed by making sure nothing is leaking. lol

Mcnumpty2323 said:
good idea
or if can get a swiftech
its an AIO but expandaple with quality components in it too
lot of us started with those
i did
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Absolutely, there's some really good expandable loops with quick-fittings and mostly standard WC parts that could offer a good avenue. A little expensive for some of them though, there were a couple of very solid EK-Predator AiO's in that regard.
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
lol
still puzzles me how he got through the psu hole
1000 posts is no problem i like to help people anyway
but theres a waiting period too
actually might be 6 months not 3
i forget now lol
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Haha.

Cats will often get into where they shouldn't out of interest, then be utterly incapable of getting out again the same way even if there's no difference in the opening.

I miss keeping them, my current landlord doesn't allow pets unfortunately.

Anyway... massively off-topic, sorry @Minibiker !
 
@Gray2233 that's OK mate...

Like mentioned in an above comment, quality is not key with this build as it's just a project to practice before I spend money on more powerful components and watercool them... What sort of bundle kits are out there for this type of thing or is it best to buy all separately?

@Mcnumpty2323 il have to hang on for a while then I could get some bits of you when you get access to MM
 
2nd hand quality bits
If you get lucky can be had cheaply
I hear some of the members market guys can be generous too
Charging under the going rate
There's also cheap no name stuff
But for the pump at least
I wouldn't go there
Just My preference though
 
Minibiker said:
@Gray2233 that's OK mate...

Like mentioned in an above comment, quality is not key with this build as it's just a project to practice before I spend money on more powerful components and watercool them... What sort of bundle kits are out there for this type of thing or is it best to buy all separately?

@Mcnumpty2323 il have to hang on for a while then I could get some bits of you when you get access to MM
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You'd need to shop around mate, and to be fair a lot of the 'cheaper' new stuff is going to be Chinese crap you might have to wait months to have delivered. I seem to remember OCUK selling a very basic CPU kit that was around £40-50, but from looking they don't do it anymore. Honestly your best bet is to just appeal to the MM for cheap tat people have sat around, or look second hand on other sites failing that.

You could always just Trust @Mcnumpty2323 I guess, although obviously you won't have the moderation of the MM at your back and it'd be an entirely individual specific encounter.

Make sure you get the tubing you ultimately intend to use though, as I said that's the worst part of it. If you're fine with the old fashioned bendy stuff you'll be fine, but the solid tubing can take a little more practice.
 
Gray2233 said:
You'd need to shop around mate, and to be fair a lot of the 'cheaper' new stuff is going to be Chinese crap you might have to wait months to have delivered. I seem to remember OCUK selling a very basic CPU kit that was around £40-50, but from looking they don't do it anymore. Honestly your best bet is to just appeal to the MM for cheap tat people have sat around, or look second hand on other sites failing that.

You could always just Trust @Mcnumpty2323 I guess, although obviously you won't have the moderation of the MM at your back and it'd be an entirely individual specific encounter.
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Ahhh no worries bud thanks for checking though... I've got a thread open in the MM at the moment so fingers crossed others come across it and could possibly help me out with any bits they have to get me started... Thanks for your help on this guys it's really appreciated
 
On the well known auction site
Swiftech stuff does not always sell
For what it should
Unlike corsair it's not a household name
Last one I got was unopened
And was the premium version
Only paid 50 quid including postage
For it :D:D
If doing it outside mm is against the rules
I wouldn't anyway
And got rads, fittings, res, and stuff
But no spare pumps
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
On the well known auction site
Swiftech stuff does not always sell
For what it should
Unlike corsair it's not a household name
Last one I got was unopened
And was the premium version
Only paid 50 quid including postage
For it :D:D
If doing it outside mm is against the rules
I wouldn't anyway
And got rads, fittings, res, and stuff
But no spare pumps
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I had a look on the Swiftech site for a few bits I'll have a look on the Auction site and see what they have on there... You got yourself a bit of a bargain there then mate... Its always good to stick to the rules mate, not long now and you'll have access to MM
 
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