basic routing 101- i skipped a few classes

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my setup- downstairs. internet going into the modem. cable from the modem into the wireless router. cable from the wireless router going upstairs into my wired router hub. cable from that hub into my pc. this used to work fine, but i took the wired router out for a month to free up some space. now i'm trying to put it back, and it doesn't recognise there is a connection. it won't connect to the internet. it says there's no problem but pages won't load. if i go straight from the wireless into my pc, it's fine. but when i go through the wired it just won't work. i need to do this so i can plug my ps3 and 360 into the wired one too, hence the point of the hub. so why won't it recognise the connection? i cba to keep moving the one damn cable from ps3 to pc etc, i need to get this hub working again. i really have no idea why it's not working anymore.
 
Alex's suggestion would probably work, but it seems a little un-necessary when it worked fine previously.

I'd reset all the equipment and re-enter any settings that you want, it's possible you adjusted something on the wireless router in the interim without realising that will effect the wired router.

Anything that can be done, should be able to be undone. You'll just need to have a fiddle :-)
 
I've tried doing this before and for the amount of time it took to fiddle it just right I wished I'd bought a cheap ethernet switch. They're really not that expensive.
 
This seems like a bit of a hassle, doesn't your provider give you a wireless router, probably cheaper to get a wireless card than a switch
 
This seems like a bit of a hassle, doesn't your provider give you a wireless router, probably cheaper to get a wireless card than a switch

i prolly sound old or something but i don't like wireless. the only reason the wireless router is there is for the other people in the house, i always plug my own stuff in directly. i dunno if it's the house or the router but sometimes there's random signal dropout which is annoying if i'm playing something or uploading a file.

i did try to get onto the router through the webpage but now that i think of it i might have been using the login for the other router, so i'm not sure if it was just web pages not loading or no internet at all, i'll try that when i get home. the annoying thing is how it worked perfectly a month ago, and now it's just dead and as far as i know i changed no settings other than opening a port for utorrent, which i then closed a week later.
 
i'm becoming more useless by the second. i can't remember how to get onto it through the webpage anymore, it's a d-link dir100. i thought i just put the IP in and it took me to it but unless the IP changed or something...

.....wait, if the program i used to forward my port on the wireless for utorrent set a static IP, then that's gonna affect the wired one when i try and plug it into it isn't it? do i somehow need to configure the wired one to accept the new IP on the wireless router or something? if so how =(
 
right, go :- Start>Run>CMD, and then type in ipconfig, and hit enter

That will give youyr default gateway of what your connected to.

Then it should just be a case of typing in either http://192.168.1.1 or https://192.168.1.1(replace the ip here with your default gateway)

You then need to get your wired router to forward dns calls etc to your wireless one, so that way you are all in the same ip pool, and share the net connection from the wireless one.
 
right, go :- Start>Run>CMD, and then type in ipconfig, and hit enter

That will give youyr default gateway of what your connected to.

Then it should just be a case of typing in either http://192.168.1.1 or https://192.168.1.1(replace the ip here with your default gateway)

You then need to get your wired router to forward dns calls etc to your wireless one, so that way you are all in the same ip pool, and share the net connection from the wireless one.

aye, remembered that about 5 minutes ago and tried it to no avail- it won't load anything, even the router's login page. just has slow loading bar then empty web page.
 
well i'm well and truly at a loss. i've exhausted my albeit miniscule knowledge of how this works, and cannot work out why i can't even log into the router's webpage interface to see what the gateway is. ipconfig tells me what the downstairs one is (i'm assuming) so i'm guessing i need to login to this one and fix it so it lets it through, but it won't open the interface. stupid d-link piece of junk. worked fine last month!
 
First Things First.

What routers do you have. And what ports are each device connected into.

Secondly, what is your internal IP address, and which router is assigning them ??

Thirdly, other than taking out the second router, what else have you changed between it working, and not working ??
 
downstairs is a linksys wrt54g wireless, upstairs is a d-link dir-100 wired.

the ip is stated as 192.168.1.170, the gateway 192.168.1.1

and i'm fairly sure it's my downstairs one controlling it, but tbh i wouldn't even know how to tell. i only say that cuz when the wired one wasn't even in, that's what it was.

and as i said the only thing that changed that could possibly at all be relevant is a program i had made a "static ip" involved in port forwarding for utorrent. nothing else changed that could be related to my routers.
 
Any hoo, From some digging, it looks like you have a subnet issues.

The default IP address for the linksys is 192.168.0.1 & the Dlink is 192.168.1.1, and both will be on a class c subnet (255.255.255.0) so they will never see each other.

First thing to do, is connect to the dlink on its dfault ip address, and change it so it is in the same range as the linksys.

Make sure that the link from the linksys, and you pc are connected into the blue lan ports, and not the grey wan port.
 
oh you mean the physical ports? lol i thought you meant...like...you know, ports.

well atm i've just got the "internet" running into wan and then an ethernet coming out of #1 into my pc. doesn't do anything tho.
 
...that...worked. i can't believe it was a total nub issue. i could have sworn that for the 3 years prior it was set up my internet was always running into the grey wan port. that's so weird. thanks man. i'll take my retardedness away now o.o
 
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