battlefield 2 frustration

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Hey everyone,
I have been seriously considering upgrading my pc simply to be more competitive in battlefield 2. My understanding is the better the equipment the greater the frame rates but only minutes ago i read an article saying that the frame rates are limited within the game at max around 100 , if this is the case why have i read elsewhere well specifically on some add for balistic ram that a test determined they were getting frame rates in battlfield 2 of 190 plus! can someone please explain which is the case cause i need a solution , and iam now wondering if the top end pc iam looking at building will solve my prob, getting real sick of being slaughtered particularly when i get first shot in :o)( Thanks and for the record my frame rate is around 70 yet theyre wiping the floor with me! p.s and my pc is a pentium(R) 4 , 3.2 gig with 2 gig ram , running a radeon 1950 pro . Thankyou
 
eweallfunny said:
Hey everyone,
I have been seriously considering upgrading my pc simply to be more competitive in battlefield 2. My understanding is the better the equipment the greater the frame rates but only minutes ago i read an article saying that the frame rates are limited within the game at max around 100 , if this is the case why have i read elsewhere well specifically on some add for balistic ram that a test determined they were getting frame rates in battlfield 2 of 190 plus! can someone please explain which is the case cause i need a solution , and iam now wondering if the top end pc iam looking at building will solve my prob, getting real sick of being slaughtered particularly when i get first shot in :o)( Thanks and for the record my frame rate is around 70 yet theyre wiping the floor with me! p.s and my pc is a pentium(R) 4 , 3.2 gig with 2 gig ram , running a radeon 1950 pro . Thankyou

70 fps is fine you just need to get better tbh :\

moses has THE worst pc ever and does well. and it is better to have more FPS but it wont make you any better unless its like a slideshow right now..
 
Yes and correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a 60hz refresh rate or something, which means that you can't see more than 60fps?
 
churned said:
Yes and correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a 60hz refresh rate or something, which means that you can't see more than 60fps?
Depends what monitor he is using, Battlefield 2 supports up to 85hz IIRC and a lot of TFTs can do 75hz.

Personally my TFT and BF2 are set to 60hz and I have vsync on, I still suck too. But I don't suck so much that it's not fun anymore. :)
 
my frame rate is around 70 yet theyre wiping the floor with me!

I would kill for 70FPS and i'm alright at it... by no means great. However, look at a game like TFC, i was good at that, yet i was getting 30FPS on my stoneage PC (64mb of ram in the HL1 engine was not exactly ideal) but still kicked arse. You wouldnt be able to tell between 70FPS and 190FPS ever, so it wouldn't help.

Infact i always find this sort of thing quite frustrating, stop blaming hardware for the fact that some people are better than you at something. The number of times i've been flamed online because my ping was low (live right next to central london so quite close to the majority of UK based servers) really has given me a huge vice when it comes to these complaints.
 
It just takes practice really, I used to not be able to understand why some people could beat me every time, but then you will look back and realise how bad you really were...
 
You either need a lot more practise and/or you need to check your pings.

I used to play BF2 with an Athlon 2100+, 2GB PC3200 and a Geforce 6800 ultra and had no problems whatsoever so it shouldn't be your computer at fault.
 
Ulfhedjinn said:
Depends what monitor he is using, Battlefield 2 supports up to 85hz IIRC and a lot of TFTs can do 75hz.

Personally my TFT and BF2 are set to 60hz and I have vsync on, I still suck too. But I don't suck so much that it's not fun anymore. :)

nope i think it goes up higher than that 125Hz iirc(possibly we are both wrong hehe), i run at 85Hz otherwise my poor old crt wont show anything :p

if your frame rate is higher than 30 you wont notice a difference at any higher, the eye can only detect stuff lower than 25fps, therefore anything greater than 30 will look like real life smooth, its just when you get intense combat that the frame rate might drop and cause you problems, when ever there is artillery my frame rate drop and then i die for some reason
 
What is Moses spec, I used to play on a 8500le and 512meg - 64 player servers too.
Before that I played the demo on a ti4200 with 64meg vram and again 512meg, half the textures were corrupted and wouldnt load so it actually got like 60fps and erm invisible tanks :D
 
FrostedNipple said:
if your frame rate is higher than 30 you wont notice a difference at any higher, the eye can only detect stuff lower than 25fps, therefore anything greater than 30 will look like real life smooth
Nah the human eye requires an "optimal" frame-rate of about 70-75fps to give the illusion of reality, I can sure as hell tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps personally.

The reason that people say 30fps/25fps is because movies and television programmes are shown around those frame-rates, but the difference between those and a computer game is that computer games don't have natural motion blur, interlacing etc.
 
FrostedNipple said:
nope i think it goes up higher than that 125Hz iirc(possibly we are both wrong hehe), i run at 85Hz otherwise my poor old crt wont show anything :p

if your frame rate is higher than 30 you wont notice a difference at any higher, the eye can only detect stuff lower than 25fps, therefore anything greater than 30 will look like real life smooth, its just when you get intense combat that the frame rate might drop and cause you problems, when ever there is artillery my frame rate drop and then i die for some reason

Talking out your arse tbh :o

As soon as my FPS drops to <50 it is VERY noticable.
 
FrostedNipple said:
i didn't make it up :( , i remember reading it somewhere

Yeah I thought so :p

I always see people badgering on about what frames the human eye can see, etc. Most of the time, it's bull ;)
 
churned said:
Yeah I thought so :p

I always see people badgering on about what frames the human eye can see, etc. Most of the time, it's bull ;)

oh lol, the thing is though, i have no reason to disprove it, is there a way of hard installing fraps fps detector in me :D
 
A fighter jet pilot can tell the difference upto 400fps but for us lot Im sure it counts upto 100fps
If you alternated 100fps and 30fps, you sure as hell would notice especially as it switched over but I'd take a consistent 30fps with no drops as perfectly acceptable any day.
I'd rather have that then 60fps which drops to 20fps for a second every minute


The developers of Forza 2 made some good points on this. If they are to accurately convey the speed of 200mph then 30fps is not really good enough because every frame will only transmit every 3 metres with nothing in between.
 
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