BBC Article on real world emissions testing
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Don't really care about emissions. Just straight pipe all the diesels and put a silencer on the end. Just adding more filters and crap to get blocked up and go wrong. Diesels get way more mpg which is all a consumer should really care about as it effects your wallet. Tax should be how much use you wear out the road not how much co2 you burn. It doesn't really cost anyone anything to have more fumes in the air... Not like they do anything to clean it up that costs money, but they just charge you.
Soldato
Fumes in the air seriously affects health. That's a cost to the NHS. Not to mention a tragedy if someone you care about dies from something linked to particulates.
Not on all of them though. But some of the popular engines get pretty bad buildup, such as VW's :/
I've seen the inside of an old (10+ years) GM v6 engine and it was squeaky clean inside.
Is that a bigger issue with direct injection engines?
LOL with the number of people who vape and smoke I don't think they really care.
It doesn't really affect people that much unless they have some bad lungs.
The stuff from vaping isn't dangerous, the particles from diesel engines is. It can GIVE you bad lungs...
Air and particles isn't dangerous. The government are saying it is so they car increase tax and prop up the car industry while charging is going down the toilet cos modern cars suck, so nobody is buying them.
Soldato
Is this seriously how you feel about
Seriously?
How on gods green earth are the government propping up the car industry with an increase in VED - you do realise that none of the money raised through VED goes back to car manufactures, right??
If anything with the last round of VED changes, the government have likely put people off buying anything with high emissions or is expensive, unless it's electric.
Its going to be destroyed eventually anyway by a asteroid or the sun dying or black hole. We will have to move at some point. Also where do you think all these gases came from in the first place. They didn't magically appear, they were in the air to start with and as trees and animals evolved they took it in.
Increasing tax increases the running costs of an older cars forcing people to buy a newer model with "better" emissions.
Soldato
By that logic you might as well just kill yourself now as we're all going to die eventually.
Not really. You just got to burn everything while you are alive
as long as you are enjoying it tis all good. Not bothered what might happen 500 years from now when the air isn't breathable any more and we all have to live underground cos kimono Jun un nuked the surface and the sun expanded making it 100c at midday on the surface. YOLO
Soldato
Not really. You just got to burn everything while you are alive
No, there's no need to go out of your way to spoil things for everyone else. Your mindset is selfish and unnecessarily destructive. We're not talking about 500 years, we're talking about 10-50 years that pollution could get way out of hand. It already has in many cities. If you ever want to bring kids into the world I'm sure you would rather that the planet was a decent place to live, where they can actually enjoy things, rather than exist on a toxic sphere.
Permabanned
The system will always be abused until we reduce emissions to ZERO.
Don't live in a city. Problem solved. More kids would mean more people and more pollution so having kids is bad for the environment too I guess.
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The new tax changes have never been retrospective. They affect new registrations.
Existing cars just get an inflationaryish uplift occasionally.
Soldato
It's not problem solved. The gases still go somewhere. Our pollution acidifies the sea, raises the temperature of the sea, changes the currents, affects weather systems, breaks down the ozone layer (increasing the more harmful UV rays that pass through it). And even if all that was ********, electricity production can be an exceptionally green process, electric vehicles are getting better and better, they will still be 'fun'. You should be more concerned about AI driving cars for us than making the most of 'using as much petrol as possible because the fun police want to take it away'.
OK. So here you have a good point. The gases from the diesels are insignificant compared to the power we use to make electricity or massive ships that burn tar use and me in many straight pipe diesel makes 0 difference to the bigger picture and going after it on a health basis is really just like going after why doesn't everyone have a titan xp and play at 120hz on a 4k monitor.
This emissions bs in cars is massively exaggerated and there are much bigger problems.
But making charges in cities for using diesel cars higher or increasing diesel prices will all contribute to the running costs.
Soldato
The author’s conclusion is excellent - he lives in central London and is getting rid of his car. This has to be the way forward in cities and built up areas to reduce emissions. London has fantastic public transport and terrible traffic. Improvements in cycle lanes have to go hand in hand with this.
Private cars in cities shouldn’t have to be used for commuting and the government have to invest the money drummed up by the emissions charges directly into achieving this goal.
Private cars in cities shouldn’t have to be used for commuting and the government have to invest the money drummed up by the emissions charges directly into achieving this goal.