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Did anyone catch what he said here?

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He apologised (IRA comments) "from the bottom of my heart" also said he was sorry for an "appalling joke" about former Conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

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It was just before that speech. Having listened to it several times I think he murmured "I apologised for that".

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Toward the end, absolute tool. Basically said he'd rather see the Migrants drown than get here. Then got lost, back tracked and reiterated what the tory said about taking them for the camps.[/QUOTE]

No he did not. He said the Australian policy of taking every boat back to the shore they came from saves more lives because others will be discouraged from making the journey.
 
Technically I don't classify myself as right wing because the mainstream view of what constitutes right wing is not what I consider as right wing and thus I don't fit the mainstream view of what constitutes right wing.

In terms of the mainstream view of what constitutes as right or my own interpretation the media still does not qualify as either understanding of what right wing is. The most right leaning is probably the telegraph because they are most critical of the state and they are usually pro capitalism. The rest are left.

So... right wing is "capitalist" and left is "anti-capitalist"? Did you learn that at school?

Pro capitalist is a strange ethos or political persuasion you know. There's more to life and society than the pursuit of capital for capitals sake.

Even as a favoured economic system it's flawed. It's simply the best we've come up with, not an ideal.
 
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So... right wing is "capitalist" and left is "anti-capitalist"? Did you learn that at school?

Pro capitalist is a strange ethos or political persuasion you know. There's more to life and society than the pursuit of capital for capitals sake.

Even as a favoured economic system it's flawed. It's simply the best we've come up with, not an ideal.

Mainstream view is that right wing is nationalist and racist and pro government and not necessarily pro or anti capitalism. None of the media is racist and nationalist.

My view right left is that right wing is anti state and libertarian at least limited government and anti-socialism. None of the media is libertarian or for a limited government and none of the media fits that interpretation of right wing either.
 
Allow John McDonnell ample time to deceive the nation about his apology over praising the IRA.

I thought john was pretty much exposed as liar by salmond and the guy from the telegraph. None of it reflected well on the new labour leadership imo.
 
I thought john was pretty much exposed as liar by salmond and the guy from the telegraph. None of it reflected well on the new labour leadership imo.

Guy from the telegraph (Tim Stanley) had a list of similar quotes he was ready to read out but was stopped in his tracks. McDonnell has a long track record of encouraging or praising acts of violence.

He has written on this today :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...McDonnells-IRA-apology-didnt-convince-me.html
 
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Technically I don't classify myself as right wing because the mainstream view of what constitutes right wing is not what I consider as right wing and thus I don't fit the mainstream view of what constitutes right wing.

In terms of the mainstream view of what constitutes as right or my own interpretation the media still does not qualify as either understanding of what right wing is. The most right leaning is probably the telegraph because they are most critical of the state and they are usually pro capitalism. The rest are left.

So you've made up your own definitions of right wing and left wing, and then use the alternative definitions in a thread where the more traditional definitions are already being used, without explaining that you mean something completely different.
 
What was more telling was the woman who asked why we're not talking about the role Britain played in destabilising the region.

Nobody talked about it, says all you need to know about the fools in power.

Thats exactly what the region needed, you think dictators being in power is a good thing then?

I sometimes wonder if people like you ever learn about the counter arguments to your position? Obviously not.
 
It's like Jo Cauldfield on Mock the Week doing an Unlikely Lines joke.

Uggh I absolutely hate proportional representation. It should be fine to have all male panels until women are on par and can compete at the same level.

And when they can I would have no problem with it. Just don't put on weak female comediennes to fill a quota.
 
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Uggh I absolutely hate proportional representation. It should be fine to have all male panels until women are on par and can compete at the same level.

And when they can I would have no problem with it. Just don't put on weak female comediennes to fill a quota.

 
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