BBC -vs- Massa . . . according to the BBC

stockhausen · 6 Oct 2011 at 20:02

BBC online have an article based around Hamilton's insistence that he is doing nothing wrong and saying that it will be business as usual in Suzuka.

They describe in detail his various problems with Massa on and off the track two weeks ago but omit any mention of Rob Smedley's allegedly having told Massa to 'destroy' Hamilton's race . . . VERY strange :confused:

ITV F1 do have a more complete report in which Massa claims that there was no significance in Smedley's observation - YEAH, RIGHT

(BBC online) - (ITV F1)

Weebull · 6 Oct 2011 at 20:33

stockhausen said:
They describe in detail his various problems with Massa on and off the track two weeks ago but omit any mention of Rob Smedley's allegedly having told Massa to 'destroy' Hamilton's race . . . VERY strange

What, you mean apart from the very obvious video in the middle of the article?

elmuzzy66. · 6 Oct 2011 at 21:00

lol stockhausen, im it doing right.
No need for a new thread.

Wicksta · 6 Oct 2011 at 21:13

Can't this fool be restricted to GD only.

JRS · 6 Oct 2011 at 21:33

For the love of....

From the Singapore thread:

JRS said:
Just LOL at the Lewisterical crew taking that radio message and projecting so hard that reality distorts I mean, honestly. What was the message going to be if it wasn't 'Felipe, hold the guy behind you and we can finish ahead of him'? It's ******* Motor Racing! You try and stay ahead of the guys behind you!

I won't post 'lolstockhausen' as I think it's juvenile, pointless and irritating in the extreme. But I'm thinking it.

Skeeter · 6 Oct 2011 at 21:56

I'm so bored of this. I wish they had never released that bit of audio.

g_tripwood · 10 Oct 2011 at 15:59

Skeeter said:
I'm so bored of this. I wish they had never released that bit of audio.

Bet that's what Massa is thinking too..

Memphis · 10 Oct 2011 at 16:12

Wicksta said:
Can't this fool be restricted to GD only.

arknor · 10 Oct 2011 at 16:24

lol i bet lewis and button and never been told to hold someone up aslong as possible

Skeeter · 10 Oct 2011 at 16:25

I am completely confused as to why one driver being told to stay in front of another during a race is suddenly headline news.

stockhausen · 10 Oct 2011 at 16:30

Skeeter said:
I am completely confused as to why one driver being told to stay in front of another during a race is suddenly headline news.

Was that what Rob Smedley told Massa?

I haven't heard the audio or read the transcript; what exactly was said?

Skeeter · 10 Oct 2011 at 16:33

While Massa had Hamilton behind, and Alonso infront, Rob told Massa to 'stay infront and destroy his race as much as possible'.

Basically, hold him up to keep him away from Alonso. Or in other words.... race.

The media however have decided that the use of the word 'destroy' is somehow related to the fact that 3 laps later, Hamilton out broke himself slightly and tagged Massa.

stockhausen · 10 Oct 2011 at 16:40

Skeeter said:
While Massa had Hamilton behind, and Alonso infront, Rob told Massa to 'stay infront and destroy his race as much as possible'.

Basically, hold him up to keep him away from Alonso. Or in other words.... race.

The media however have decided that the use of the word 'destroy' is somehow related to the fact that 3 laps later, Hamilton out broke himself slightly and tagged Massa.

Ah, OK.

I guess that it could be argued that the instruction was to do with delaying Hamilton (destroying his race) so as to protect Alonso's lead rather than actually to race (i.e. attain the highest possible finishing position for himself) . . . this does seem to be the designated role for Massa within Ferrari.

I guess that we should always remember that F1 is a 'team' rather than an 'individual' endeavour.

Skeeter · 10 Oct 2011 at 16:46

Yep, thats exactly how I see it. He was told to hold Hamilton up to help Alonso.

I see absolutely no issue in that, and also absolutely no way that that could somehow be linked to the incident between Massa and Hamilton. But aparently the media felt otherwise.

arknor · 10 Oct 2011 at 19:21

did mclaren ever speak out on this? i remember coulthard destroying someones race in 1998 at spa literally

Skeeter · 10 Oct 2011 at 21:08

arknor said:
did mclaren ever speak out on this? i remember coulthard destroying someones race in 1998 at spa literally

LOL. You are so transparent you have little stickers on to stop people accidentally walking into you!

Weebull · 10 Oct 2011 at 22:58

-someone

+everyone

arknor · 11 Oct 2011 at 02:48

Skeeter said:
LOL. You are so transparent you have little stickers on to stop people accidentally walking into you!

never saw such a mclaren fanboy in my life and someone who believes vettel is the best driver because he wins the championship regardless of how superior the car is.

please ignore my posts because im ignoring yours.

stockhausen · 11 Oct 2011 at 08:05

arknor said:
did mclaren ever speak out on this? i remember coulthard destroying someones race in 1998 at spa literally

. . . or Schumacher & Hill in Adelaide in '94
. . . or Schumacher & Villenueve in Jerez in '97

That sort of thing you mean?

Do please forgive the appropriate use of capital letters

Skeeter · 11 Oct 2011 at 08:34

arknor said:
never saw such a mclaren fanboy in my life and someone who believes vettel is the best driver because he wins the championship regardless of how superior the car is.

please ignore my posts because im ignoring yours.

LOL!

stockhausen said:
. . . or Schumacher & Hill in Adelaide in '94
. . . or Schumacher & Villenueve in Jerez in '97

That sort of thing you mean?

Do please forgive the appropriate use of capital letters

Even bigger LOL!

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