Beggars outside supermarkets

Seems specific to your area, I once seen walking home a drunk guy ask me for some money, obvious what he was going to spend it on but gave him a couple of quid anyway, didnt want to add to his misery.

Never seem homeless camped outside of supermarkets before.
 
Seems specific to your area, I once seen walking home a drunk guy ask me for some money, obvious what he was going to spend it on but gave him a couple of quid anyway, didnt want to add to his misery.

Never seem homeless camped outside of supermarkets before.

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That is outside waterloo station lol, a few of them outside tesco, pretty much blocking the road.

However as i have said, in the recent time, most of the homeless are gone, what you have now are youths chasing each other and the police chasing them
 
When was the last time you used Ocado? They tell you the date as you're adding to basket.

Damn that is nice, I do agree with psycho on this one, the pros of going in for shopping, good dates, if what you want isnt there favoured substitute.

Asda gave me hand soaps as a substitute for disinplus 3 times in a row then I tried the trick I used to do with tesco (after a self stacker friend I know told me how they used substitute system to manage stock, end of this post) I then the 4th time refused substitute on order, and by coincidence they then delivered it.

My younger sister during covid for about a month did online shopping but stopped it as was sick of getting short dated food and rubbish sub's. The supermarkets will never say it, but its clear online deliveries (exlcuding ocado who are online only) are been used to shift stock that inside shoppers are passing by, I have had 2 supermarkets even kind of admit it to me.

As an example I queried asda as to why some items were removed from the online page, they confirmed they still in store but because they sell "extremely well" there was no need to put them on the website, I responded, does that mean the website is used to boost hard to sell items I was told "yes". Iceland in another call confirmed to me they prioritise in store customers, if items sell well, they pulled from website, items struggling to sell in store go on website as a priority and actively promoted to buyers. It makes good business sense it is understandable, food has finite life, and online delivery services are great at helping managing stock.

But what about substitutes and dated food? Are pickers deliberately picking shorter life stock, probably not but we do know that stackers put shorter dates at front, and pickers to save time are likely just taking whats on the front.

What I did find interesting though is when my friend told me that if something is subbed it doesnt mean it was out of stock, the supermarket he worked for had a system, that if they had a sub that needed stock shifting as they were struggling to sell before expiry, then the pickers would be told to sub to that product from other brands. This obviously increases likely hood of bad dates as its old stock needed to sell but also increase chance of a sub. He said in past picker used to pick the sub but often it lost the employer money as they would do things like sub cheap branded chocolate for premium with no cost difference to customer.

For sure going to try ocado again if they are telling you use by date in basket, that sounds awesome. Hopefully now I can get slots. as thats what stopped me using them before.
 
Damn that is nice, I do agree with psycho on this one, the pros of going in for shopping, good dates, if what you want isnt there favoured substitute.

Asda gave me hand soaps as a substitute for disinplus 3 times in a row then I tried the trick I used to do with tesco (after a self stacker friend I know told me how they used substitute system to manage stock, end of this post) I then the 4th time refused substitute on order, and by coincidence they then delivered it.

My younger sister during covid for about a month did online shopping but stopped it as was sick of getting short dated food and rubbish sub's. The supermarkets will never say it, but its clear online deliveries (exlcuding ocado who are online only) are been used to shift stock that inside shoppers are passing by, I have had 2 supermarkets even kind of admit it to me.

As an example I queried asda as to why some items were removed from the online page, they confirmed they still in store but because they sell "extremely well" there was no need to put them on the website, I responded, does that mean the website is used to boost hard to sell items I was told "yes". Iceland in another call confirmed to me they prioritise in store customers, if items sell well, they pulled from website, items struggling to sell in store go on website as a priority and actively promoted to buyers. It makes good business sense it is understandable, food has finite life, and online delivery services are great at helping managing stock.

But what about substitutes and dated food? Are pickers deliberately picking shorter life stock, probably not but we do know that stackers put shorter dates at front, and pickers to save time are likely just taking whats on the front.

What I did find interesting though is when my friend told me that if something is subbed it doesnt mean it was out of stock, the supermarket he worked for had a system, that if they had a sub that needed stock shifting as they were struggling to sell before expiry, then the pickers would be told to sub to that product from other brands. This obviously increases likely hood of bad dates as its old stock needed to sell but also increase chance of a sub. He said in past picker used to pick the sub but often it lost the employer money as they would do things like sub cheap branded chocolate for premium with no cost difference to customer.

For sure going to try ocado again if they are telling you use by date in basket, that sounds awesome. Hopefully now I can get slots. as thats what stopped me using them before.
Products are bought to match anticipated supply. It is very rare you'll get a poorly dated product from Ocado.

Also, Ocado don't use people to pick things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKrcpa8Z_E
 
Products are bought to match anticipated supply. It is very rare you'll get a poorly dated product from Ocado.

Also, Ocado don't use people to pick things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKrcpa8Z_E

Yeah I have very little bad dates from Ocado, for me they have always been by far the best, I stopped using them as I simply couldnt get slots last spring. I used to rotate between them and morrisons.
 
My grandma works in one of the underground stations in London and every time when she goes to work she sees this man begging for money. She spoke to him one day while having a cig outside so apparently he has a council apartment and he isn't even interested in looking for a job as ''begging gets him more money than minimum'' he even offered my gram to do it.
 
Yeah I have very little bad dates from Ocado, for me they have always been by far the best, I stopped using them as I simply couldnt get slots last spring. I used to rotate between them and morrisons.
Bad dates are not necessarily bad for wastage, people going into the super market and always buying the longest dates definitely are. Buying stuff that lasts as long as you need is the key to less wastage is if you plan your meals you know which day you will eat something so how long the date will Need to be so no wastage and longer dates left for those who need them or to stay on the shelf until required.

Back on topic I don’t think I have ever been in one of the small super markets Tesco Express/ Sainsbury’s local etc that didn’t have the prerequisite beggar sat outside. Some seem alright, only ask you on the way in are polite etc others are much more annoying. Not sure why it is allowed but it happens up and down the country.
 
Bad dates are not necessarily bad for wastage, people going into the super market and always buying the longest dates definitely are. Buying stuff that lasts as long as you need is the key to less wastage is if you plan your meals you know which day you will eat something so how long the date will Need to be so no wastage and longer dates left for those who need them or to stay on the shelf until required.

Back on topic I don’t think I have ever been in one of the small super markets Tesco Express/ Sainsbury’s local etc that didn’t have the prerequisite beggar sat outside. Some seem alright, only ask you on the way in are polite etc others are much more annoying. Not sure why it is allowed but it happens up and down the country.

I have been throwing food away having barely eaten any of it many times now because the quality is gone from the age. I am one of those who thinks best before needs to come back for bread etc.

Just ordered my ocado but I dont see anything on there telling me what my use by date will be other than weak guarantees (just 2 days for bread), will hopefully get good dates like I did in the past though.
 
I have been throwing food away having barely eaten any of it many times now because the quality is gone from the age. I am one of those who thinks best before needs to come back for bread etc.

Just ordered my ocado but I dont see anything on there telling me what my use by date will be other than weak guarantees (just 2 days for bread), will hopefully get good dates like I did in the past though.
Sounds to me like you are buying more than you need, try a smaller loaf of bread if you are regularly not eating a full loaf before it goes stale. We have been online shopping for about 6 years be very rarely get a bad date on anything and usually if it is short dated we are notified on our confirmation email and can reject them at the door. There will always be trade offs for the convenience of online shopping but I’m never going back to a weekly trip to do the big shop!
 
Beggars here outside Sainsbury's now ask if they can have the coin from your trolley. And when their begging 'stint' is done....a car comes along & picks them up!
 
Beggars here outside Sainsbury's now ask if they can have the coin from your trolley. And when their begging 'stint' is done....a car comes along & picks them up!

There were several like that around the Tube station where I used to live. They appeared to work shifts and were very territorial.
 
Life sometimes deals people a ****** hand, (almost) anyone can become homeless. YOUR HOME MAYBE REPOSSESSED IF YOU DO NOT KEEP UP MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS etc. The people that don't have a support of family, friends can all too easily fall through the cracks in society. And once they are in that situation they get mostly ignored by public, council, gov. It's mostly charities they rely on. Every country in the world has some kind of homelessness issue. It's probably a complex issue but not helped by the fact that housing is thought of as an investment when its not, its something essential that everyone needs. That works out great for the rich, but not so well for the poor.

I live in Birmingham, last time I was in city centre during winter I was shocked how many doorways had someone wrapped up in blanket sleeping. They ain't begging, just existing.

Japan has an aging population that are homeless. Random video popped up a while ago doing the rounds, so sad to watch someone just walking around aimlessly without any kind of reason to go anywhere. The internet helped her out and now she's loaded via a crowdfunder, but that's not the end for her, she would need someone to help her manage the money etc. These are people. They need help.


Enjoy your roof and bed.
 
I've always been told that there are always avenues people can take to survive off the streets, social housing etc. I'll buy food for people if they ask for it but will never give them cash.
 
Sounds to me like you are buying more than you need, try a smaller loaf of bread if you are regularly not eating a full loaf before it goes stale. We have been online shopping for about 6 years be very rarely get a bad date on anything and usually if it is short dated we are notified on our confirmation email and can reject them at the door. There will always be trade offs for the convenience of online shopping but I’m never going back to a weekly trip to do the big shop!

I am talking about bread that is stale the day it is delivered. If the bread is good enough I eat it in two days. But its difficult to get bread delivered that is good quality for that length of time.

Because of the problem I usually order two different loafs, so I get two rolls of the dice.

In my experience it needs at least four days use by date to have a high chance of tasting nice on day two. The supermarkets only promise two days which is really low. Before my local coop closed I used to get my bread from there and it was easy to buy bread with a week left on it, and how soft it was compared to deliveries was a night and day difference. Bread really needs best before dates, but supermarkets would hate that as it would mean they couldnt sell bread so close to use by dates easily.

Use by dates are for when food has risk of been unhealthy to eat, its not a quality metric. Thats what best before date's are for. I notice on various other foods as well, you can eat food thats in date, but if its near the end of its life it wont taste as nice.

But maybe you think its reasonable to have to eat your food in one day on a weekly shop.
 
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If you were suddenly made homeless, what would be your first plan of action? where would you store all the "stuff" you've bought over the years?
Do you have family to take you in or are you at an age where there is hardly anyone in your immediate family left alive?

If it happened to me I suppose I would go running back to mummy lol.
 
I am talking about bread that is stale the day it is delivered. If the bread is good enough I eat it in two days. But its difficult to get bread delivered that is good quality for that length of time.

Because of the problem I usually order two different loafs, so I get two rolls of the dice.

In my experience it needs at least four days use by date to have a high chance of tasting nice on day two. The supermarkets only promise two days which is really low. Before my local coop closed I used to get my bread from there and it was easy to buy bread with a week left on it, and how soft it was compared to deliveries was a night and day difference. Bread really needs best before dates, but supermarkets would hate that as it would mean they couldnt sell bread so close to use by dates easily.

Use by dates are for when food has risk of been unhealthy to eat, its not a quality metric. Thats what best before date's are for. I notice on various other foods as well, you can eat food thats in date, but if its near the end of its life it wont taste as nice.

But maybe you think its reasonable to have to eat your food in one day on a weekly shop.
Shop at a different super market in six years of Sainsbury’s deliveries we have never had this issue, the occasional squashed loaf and the annoyingly regular leaking milk are much more of a problem that dates. Personally always find the morning deliveries better less swaps better dates etc.
 
YOUR HOME MAYBE REPOSSESSED IF YOU DO NOT KEEP UP MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS

Genuine question as I don't know how this all works, is there a reason you can't sell up when you realise you can't make your payments? Seems odd to me when you maybe own 70% of your house, the banks just take it?
 
Shop at a different super market in six years of Sainsbury’s deliveries we have never had this issue, the occasional squashed loaf and the annoyingly regular leaking milk are much more of a problem that dates. Personally always find the morning deliveries better less swaps better dates etc.

Thats what I was doing before covid and my choice became limited who gave me priority slots :) To be fair Asda are not terrible I would say its about 2/3 chance the bread is stale on delivery, Tesco it was about 90%. Morrisons about 10-20%, Ocado almost never.

But now all the slots have eased up and I have an Ocado delivery coming tomorrow. :)
 
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