Being Falsely Accused

This maybe a cultural thing, the spanish are very old fashioned my mate says the women are like proper old school no sleeping around or something so I imagine to them accidently brushing = in their eyes you should have taken more care but obviously this is not your fault you're from a different culture where we don't have to tip toe to avoid the slightest bit of contact with a lass.
 
geuben said:
Speaking from a bit of experience, if your supervisor is a reasonably nice person they'll probably be all nice and aggreable with the customer and do whatever they can to please them but then afterwards just tell you to forget about it as you always get problem customers in resturants.
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I take it you decided to ignore the post and pass on random experience then?

(N.B. I mean that as a joke, please dont take offence!)

OP. Very sorry but I have little useful to contribute, let us know how it goes. Some people just like to stir trouble, from what you have described this girl and her husband fall into this catagory. Has she ever made complaints in the past about other employees?
 
Complete and utter denial is certainly the way to go. You are innocent; these are totally unfounded accusations. It's a classic case of her word against yours.

Sadly, workplace disciplinary actions are very far removed from criminal law. There does not need to be proof, just reasonable doubt. If the supervisor believes her word over yours, you're screwed.

Once again, I have to mention unions. If there is no union, you're screwed. If there is one - get in it now! (I would think the GMB is the correct union).

Is there any likelihood that this is a Spanish thing - a gradual replacement of all workers to make way for more Spaniards? That's pretty nasty, and once again you're screwed. There are several things you can do if you are unfortunate enough to lose your job - citizen's advice would be your first port of call.

If it's really not that important to you, just grab a trusted mate to go in there with you, protest your innocence 100% and just see what transpires.

Good luck.
 
Pipe & Slippers said:
Remember that things like this are a pita for employers and they want the whole thing to go away. Basically it's her word against yours, so unless some independent third party shows up, the employer has no evidence to do anything.

As above, take someone with you if possible.

Take notes

Start off asking what the procedure is, what the next step is Ask what your rights are, ask whether it's appropriate that you consult a solicitor

Ask what you've been accused of and I mean specifics - you were rubbing up against her, eh? How? In what way?... an ordinary crowded way or a sexual way? A sexual way huh? How was it sexual? What she may regard as sexual may be cultural thing (well....maybe not)

Get dates times etc...ask for details of at least 5 separate instances...nothing vague like "wednesday morning" but specifics, you know Colonel Mustard in the Library with the lead piping (fnaar) @9:15 yesterday. Her being at all vague amounts to heresay and isn't good enough.

At this point, don't get drawn into making rebuttals of specific accusations, take a deep breath and ask for her evidence. Save your comeback for the next stage (hopefully there won't be one)

If she believed this was happening, why didn't she tell you to stop (major omission on her part- are you an intimidating charatcter?). Why didn't she get your/her supervisor involved - had she had informal conversations with supervisors (if not, why not - how the hell were you supposed to know there was a problem and now she's gone all nuclear).

Make a very stong point about her getting her husband involved and say you were harassed and intimidated by him - was it on company premises? - an employer has a duty to protect it's employees and that includes you. Is he waiting outside in the car to harass you after? Say you are concerned for your personal safety

To any accusation, complete denial is irrefutable unless she has some other impartial evidence...do you have cctv in the restuarant? Has it been checked?

If what your friend says is true about this happening before, bring this up at the end saying you have been told this has happened before - ask them if this is true. If they deny it your quote should be "So you are 100% telling me that this sort of thing has never happened before?" Make sure you get an affirmitive from both company reps individually

Good luck - just keep in mind that the only person who's present who wants this meeting is her. You don't want it, and neither do your employers
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The husband was pointing and shouting at me in front of the Supervisor, and he didn't do or say anything about it. I was furious at that. I believe I remained calm, and all I asked was for him to stop pointing. He hasn't said anything off the premises or anything. He works the same days as me, and he has slightly different hours, so one of us is of the site before one another.

I will stress that he imtemmidated me, as I really didn't deserve it.. and I'm a bag of nerves as it is.. just my character. I wouldn't call myself an imtemmidating character.

I don't think there is CCTV in the resturant, but everywhere else there is.

Another thing that is typical is that her husband was really nice to me before, we've even gone out for a drink after work :o. So, I think it's a jealousy thing or something..

Another thing that my supervisor said on the phone earlier today was that he thought I was innocent; off the record.. and that she/him were making mountains-out-of-mole-hills.

So, I will see how it goes. I might start looking for a job now, as it's not a dream job anyways, but that's not the point. I don't want my name to be tarnished by something so stupid.

Thanks again for replies, have opened my eyes to my rights etc.

Jake.
 
BloomerzUK said:
The husband was pointing and shouting at me in front of the Supervisor, and he didn't do or say anything about it. I was furious at that. I believe I remained calm, and all I asked was for him to stop pointing. He hasn't said anything off the premises or anything. He works the same days as me, and he has slightly different hours, so one of us is of the site before one another.

I will stress that he imtemmidated me, as I really didn't deserve it.. and I'm a bag of nerves as it is.. just my character. I wouldn't call myself an imtemmidating character.

I don't think there is CCTV in the resturant, but everywhere else there is.

Another thing that is typical is that her husband was really nice to me before, we've even gone out for a drink after work :o. So, I think it's a jealousy thing or something..

Another thing that my supervisor said on the phone earlier today was that he thought I was innocent; off the record.. and that she/him were making mountains-out-of-mole-hills.

So, I will see how it goes. I might start looking for a job now, as it's not a dream job anyways, but that's not the point. I don't want my name to be tarnished by something so stupid.

Thanks again for replies, have opened my eyes to my rights etc.

Jake.
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Stop repeating yourself on how you were intimidated. Be alpha, stand up for yourself.
 
i agree with whoever said u should plead gay.
and that they are picking on u because your gay
yes your gay...or atleast tell them that
 
Hi @ All,

Everything went well. I kept my cool, and basically told them my side of the story.

Now I wait for a call about the outcome.

Cheers for all replies.
 
As a Spanish person I can say this ... be yourself, you've done nothing wrong. If they fire you for doing nothing they are a bunch of sc...bags so don't worry about it!
 
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