Belgium Grand Prix 2011, Spa Circuit - Race 12/19

IMO anywhere that it allows an overtaking pass to be fully completed before the braking zone of the next corner doesnt need DRS (surely slipstream+KERS could be enough?). I also wish it was clever enough to realise if the car in front is a competitor or a car to be lapped...

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Cavallino said:
Corrected. I think this has been the story of the season. I personally think its good viewing even though its artificial.
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I don't think DRS has brought good viewing. The other changes have delivered interesting racing, more overtaking and a decent challenge. Watching people swan past with their DRS wide open just isn't interesting.

All the best overtakes we've seen this year haven't been in DRS zones.
 
Mr Jack said:
I don't think DRS has brought good viewing. The other changes have delivered interesting racing, more overtaking and a decent challenge. Watching people swan past with their DRS wide open just isn't interesting.

All the best overtakes we've seen this year haven't been in DRS zones.
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Exactly there is no enjoyment from watching DRS overtakes.
The other changes have done far more for interesting races. DD ban being the best, now just 0.5sec following and tyres have been good, but if they got rid of the two compound rule, it would open strategy up even more. But because they have to run two compound and an average of say 3 stops. That does not leave many options. Only if someone could qualify on hards and do just one stop. Or qualify on softs and do 3 or 4 pits for fresh softs.
 
DRS needs to be banned, it makes for awful awful viewing. When I witness a DRS overtake I just feel nothing and a very slight feeling of annoyance. Even when it is a driver that I like that benefits from a DRS overtake, I still have the same feeling. It isn't a true overtake.
 
I guess you either love it or hate it.
I love it.
It's been a long time since I felt such excitement as I felt when DRS was engaged for the first time in Canada 2011. The moment that happened I knew Button would have a chance to attack Vettel.

Without DRS, I was thinking, that Button was doing great, but he would get stuck behind MSc or Webber and as a result wouldn't be able to attack Vettel.
 
The ONLY thing I like about DRS is when a driver is outside the DRS zone and he has to pedal harder to get himself inside that zone. Even if he then manages to pull off a successful DRS overtake. I at least feel like I have been entertained.

The issue with DRS is when the car behind is already very well capable to overtaking without DRS but the DRS is used anyway and the overtake becomes too easy.

I think DRS should only become available IF the car is stuck behind the same car in front for at least 4 consecutive laps, AND is within a certain gap. At least with this way we would be given the opportunity to see a "natural overtake" rather than a "synthetic overtake" as a last resort.

The DRS could also be used as a field bunching device. The field often breaks up into several distinct "packs". DRS could be enabled for certain packs to as to allow them to catch up with the pack in front. It would be a similar effect to what you see in many arcade racing games.
 
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NathanE said:
I think DRS should only become available IF the car is stuck behind the same car in front for at least 4 consecutive laps, AND is within a certain gap. At least with this way we would be given the opportunity to see a "natural overtake" rather than a "synthetic overtake" as a last resort.

The DRS could also be used as a field bunching device. The field often breaks up into several distinct "packs". DRS could be enabled for certain packs to as to allow them to catch up with the pack in front. It would be a similar effect to what you see in many arcade racing games.
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I know what your trying to get at, but I can only thing that would make things even worse.
It would make it even more artificial if you could only use it under certain circumstances, it's bad enough only being able to use it in a specific spot each lap. Having real life catch up would be rubbish - it's bad enough in games! :p

I'd like to see it scrapped. It made overtaking way to easy again this weekend (unless your name is Massa and you're trying to overtake Rosberg :D) Like many others I'd like to see it completely removed, and allow much bigger KERS that can be used for the push to pass with no limitations of per lap - allow you to use as much as you can harvest. This will make it both less artificial and also more beneficial to the world in terms of tech.
 
Love the crop of funny F1 vids popping up, it should have its own thread imo :p

Some of the best are from Kimi, if you get bored have a poke through some of the YouTube vids he features in.
 
sunama said:
I guess you either love it or hate it.
I love it.
It's been a long time since I felt such excitement as I felt when DRS was engaged for the first time in Canada 2011. The moment that happened I knew Button would have a chance to attack Vettel.

Without DRS, I was thinking, that Button was doing great, but he would get stuck behind MSc or Webber and as a result wouldn't be able to attack Vettel.
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I like it, but sometimes its annoying when it allows a driver to make a complete overtake maneuver rather than putting them in a place to make a move, if you know what I mean. Hopefully the FIA will learn from what has happened this year and make some tweaks to the distances.
 
I doubt it, I'm sure fia said in the past that the system isn't capable of two selection points. Which seems odd as it's a bit of computer software.
 
Ideally I think DRS should be used throughout the entire lap, but in a massively reduced form than it currently exists. Basically with the cars as they are, when you get into that 1.5second gap to car in front your own performance starts to suffer. Say that turbulent air slows your lap down by 3 tenths, they should fine tune DRS so that over the whole lap it saves you about 3 tenths. IMO, this would allow drivers to stay in touch with the car in front, and therefore attack at any corners that allow it, without giving you a massive advantage on a single overtaking straight.
 
I don't really get the hatred of DRS making passing "too easy". Back in the days when slipstreams actually used to mean something, you'd get cars drifting up behind and past each other all the time. Now it happens once (or possibly twice, in Italy's case) a lap, and everyone's up in arms about it.

All DRS has done is compensate for the inability of modern F1 cars to get close behind the one in front.
 
It hasn't though. Everyone had slip stream and as soon as you moved out from behind the car, you lost slip stream. DRS is not the same in any shape or form.
 
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