Bermuda Triangle

I understand flight 19 was a routine flight flown many many times by the pilots, although instruments in those days were cruder, these guys were trained in VFR and while it may be possible for any one pilot to get a little disorientated I would have thought it very unlikely for the whole group to to get lost all at the same time. It just doesn't make a lot of sense.
 
Pilots still get lost all the time, just look at number of small aircraft lost each year by very well trained pilots and even on routes they flown many times.
 
It was a routine training mission, that doesn't mean they had flown the route. None of planes had a clock onboard either.

Radio conversations between the pilots were overheard by base and other aircraft in the area. The practice bombing operation was carried out because at about 15:00 a pilot requested and was given permission to drop his last bomb.[2] Forty minutes later, another flight instructor, Lieutenant Robert F. Cox in FT-74, forming up with his group of students for the same mission, received an unidentified transmission.[1]
A male asked Powers, one of the students, for his compass reading. Powers replied: "I don't know where we are. We must have got lost after that last turn." Cox then transmitted; "This is FT-74, plane or boat calling 'Powers' please identify yourself so someone can help you." The response after a few moments was a request from the others in the flight for suggestions. FT-74 tried again and a man identified as FT-28 (Taylor) came on. "FT-28, this is FT-74, what is your trouble?" "Both of my compasses are out", Taylor replied, "and I am trying to find Fort Lauderdale, Florida. I am over land but it's broken. I am sure I'm in the Keys but I don't know how far down and I don't know how to get to Fort Lauderdale."[2]
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Why does it confirm something strange was happening?
Just equipment failure and ran out of fuel.

The help plane blew up.

Like most air crash. Set of unfortunate sequences.

It also was not a rare occurrence
Records also showed training accidents between 1942 and 1945 accounted for the loss of 95 aviation personnel from NAS Fort Lauderdale[8] In 1992, another expedition located scattered debris on the ocean floor, but nothing could be identified. In the last decade[when?], searchers have been expanding their area to include farther east, into the Atlantic Ocean.
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spankingtexan said:
I understand flight 19 was a routine flight flown many many times by the pilots, although instruments in those days were cruder, these guys were trained in VFR and while it may be possible for any one pilot to get a little disorientated I would have thought it very unlikely for the whole group to to get lost all at the same time. It just doesn't make a lot of sense.
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A little story from around 1998:
I used to go out quite a lot with my mate in his Cessna who had got well over 2500 hours experience.
This one day we had flown down to Leicester, landed, messed about and took off again.
On the way back he realised he had followed the wrong motorway (from above obviously) and went into a blind panic because he was totally lost.
Instead of flying N we had gone W so he decided to fly NE to try and get on flight path but he was still lost because he had no instruments to tell him exactly where he was.
A few minutes later a control tower called him (I think Milton Keynes) and this is where he really panicked and went into 'the radio isn't working correctly mode'.
Apparently if he didn't know where he was he would lose his licence.
They got agitated with him and started to threaten to send another plane out to him but he could not let on he was lost.
A couple of minutes later he recognised a power station below and went into proper pilot BS speech and got himself out of it.

That was 1998 so I'm wondering what instrumentation was like back in the day of flight 19.
 
Or perhaps back then lanes where not the same as today and these are war planes.

Just read wiki and stop wanting to believe something mysteries

A 500-page Navy board of investigation report published a few months later made several observations.
Taylor had mistakenly believed that the small islands he passed over were the Florida Keys, so his flight was over the Gulf of Mexico and heading northeast would take them to Florida. It was determined that Taylor had passed over the Bahamas as scheduled, and he did in fact lead his flight to the northeast over the Atlantic. The report noted that some subordinate officers did likely know their approximate position as indicated by radio transmissions stating that flying west would result in reaching the mainland.
Taylor, although an excellent combat pilot and officer with the Navy, had a tendency to "fly by the seat of his pants," getting lost several times in the process.[citation needed] It was twice during such times that he had to ditch his plane in the Pacific and be rescued.
Taylor was not to fault because the compasses stopped working.
The loss of PBM-5 BuNo 59225 was attributed to a mid-air explosion.[1]
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Only if they are methane breathing Aliens lol. Either that or all the avengers suffered from compas failure, all the pilots got disoriantated and the methane was of an unknown type and caused whole crews to vanish of ships.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Have you actually read anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_Triangle#Notable_incidents

Read the incidences.

Oh look non of them are that strange and some of them didn't even happen in the triangle.
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And also he could try taking any Triangle in the sea of a same size and see how many incidents happened there.

OP, if you want to take the tin foil hatting further at EXACTLY the opposite side of the planet to the Bermuda Triangle is another Triangle (near Japan I think) that also has strange happenings.
 
Seriously man, of course i've read about it, it just seems a little odd and not all i'm reading is ringing true, a lone pilot getting into difficulties and cocking up now and then I can accept but several aircraft in formation with all pilots being disoriantated just does not wash, it sounds like that brainwashed crackpot who thougt the world was going to end the other day, then there's those who believe it must have happened because they read it in the paper or seen it on telly.
 
Well if you read it, they think one pilot did know where they where due to radio transmissions. Doesn't mean he was listened to, or perhaps he was, but by that point was already to low on fuel and the approaching weather front.

In the navy report they don't think all the co oases failed. However they did not have any clocks in the plane,, which wouldn't usually be a problem if the airmen had watches. It might not be going of course, it could be that they turned to soon, or to late, which even if heading in right direction. They would still be of course.
 
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I'll keep an open mind, maybe there is a rational explanation for ALL the events in the triangle and the rational one must be persued and explored, only when that is exhausted must it be put down to unknown. People will take a one sided view and convince themselfs they are right, As I am not convinced either way i'll reserve judgment.
 
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