Bermuda Triangle

spankingtexan said:
a lone pilot getting into difficulties and cocking up now and then I can accept but several aircraft in formation with all pilots being disoriantated just does not wash
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Yes it does add up.
If they thought the lead pilot knew where he was going they would follow.
OK, not the same, but how many of us have followed a mate because we were confident they were right even though we might say 'I'm sure it's over there'.
Instrumentation back then isn't what it is now and in a plane getting lost and running out of fuel would lead to death.
The Bermuda Triangle is also a very foggy place from both normal clouds and methane gas build up.
 
dmpoole said:
A little story from around 1998:
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Nice one, this proves the Flight 19 point nicely although I remember the fighter pilot quote from my flying training days:
"You are never truly lost until you are flying twice the speed of sound" :D

edit: just noticed the post above, Flight 19 consisted of an experienced leader and 4 trainees flying into adverse weather conditions. Wikipedia's article is an interesting read and the Beeb broadcast a (slightly) sensationalist documentary a few years ago.

spankingtexan said:
People will take a one sided view and convince themselfs they are right, As I am not convinced either way i'll reserve judgment.
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I am taking a one sided view based on the rational evidence I have read to date ;)
 
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spankingtexan said:
I understand flight 19 was a routine flight flown many many times by the pilots, although instruments in those days were cruder, these guys were trained in VFR and while it may be possible for any one pilot to get a little disorientated I would have thought it very unlikely for the whole group to to get lost all at the same time. It just doesn't make a lot of sense.
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They all returned in Close encounters of the third kind, didn't they ?
 
There's nothing unusual about the Bermuda triangle except the degree of hype about it. Taking into account the size, depth and amount of traffic, the number of incompletely explained disappearances is normal.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Atlantis yet. It usually crops up sooner or later in connection with the Bermuda triangle (caused by the intermittently working remnants of Atlantean technology/magic).
 
dmpoole said:
A little story from around 1998:
I used to go out quite a lot with my mate in his Cessna who had got well over 2500 hours experience.
This one day we had flown down to Leicester, landed, messed about and took off again.
On the way back he realised he had followed the wrong motorway (from above obviously) and went into a blind panic because he was totally lost.
Instead of flying N we had gone W so he decided to fly NE to try and get on flight path but he was still lost because he had no instruments to tell him exactly where he was.
A few minutes later a control tower called him (I think Milton Keynes) and this is where he really panicked and went into 'the radio isn't working correctly mode'.
Apparently if he didn't know where he was he would lose his licence.
They got agitated with him and started to threaten to send another plane out to him but he could not let on he was lost.
A couple of minutes later he recognised a power station below and went into proper pilot BS speech and got himself out of it.

That was 1998 so I'm wondering what instrumentation was like back in the day of flight 19.
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Did you just make that up?
 
Scuzi said:
Did you just make that up?
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I know you're an Air Controller but every word was true except I'm not sure of the year and if it was Leicester we went down to.
A few weeks later he bought an early version of a GPS unit that cost nearly £1000 so he would never get lost again.
Obviously I don't know how true it was that he would lose his licence if he got lost but that's what he told me.
I don't do lies.
Anything else?
 
dmpoole said:
Obviously I don't know how true it was that he would lose his licence if he got lost but that's what he told me.
I don't do lies.
Anything else?
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That sort of situation is fairly common but I think your mate has been embellishing things a bit :p
 
I for one, welcome our new Alien overlords!

Its a strange story but a lot of the stuff can probably be rationally explained, its just the legend and mystique surrounding the area that make any dissipearances seem strange.
 
I've always thought a lot of these stories are the result of desolation. The sea's a lonely place that gets to people. You're confined and it's claustrophobic. Most turn a bit 'weird' after a while.
 
Oh yes, the Atlantis explanation:- Are electromagnetic impulses from power sources of vanished ancient-and highly advanced-civilizations causing space-time warps that wrench planes and ships into other worlds or dimensions?
 
spankingtexan said:
There is lots of evidence that pionts to a super advanced civilization of the past.
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You are a loony, there really isn't.

There is some for civilisation dating back before we thought, but not super dpadvance.

Why do people make threads like this, when their mind is obviously made up and no logic or evidence can shake it.
 
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