Best £200ish card for wow and does overclocking void warranty?

[Marine-RX179]

It does matter. It's widely accepted WoW runs better on nVidia hardware. If he is buying FOR WoW and has a choice he should go nVidia.

I don't need you to tell me wow runs better on Nvidia than AMD card thank you very much. It uses to matter because graphic cards weren't all fast enough to hit constant 60fps, and same tier Nvidia vs AMD card the Nvidia cards get some extra performance we all know that (i.e. GTX260 vs 4870/5770). But the thing is when graphic cards as fast as the level of 670 and 7950, neither card would really have frame rate dropping to below 60fps due to GPU limitation...and when it does, it is always because of the CPU not keeping up and with GPU usage dipping, rather than at 99% usage.

So basically, the 670 has no advantage over 7950 in WOW at all for 1920 res 60Hz monitor users (120Hz monitor user though, then yea it would worth considering the 670 instead). Overall, the 7950 offer better spec (384-bit memory bus, 3GB vram), better performance all round for games in general, and better value (lower price AND with lots of free games).

 

[Sin_Chase]

I don't need you to tell me wow runs better on Nvidia than AMD card thank you very much. It uses to matter because graphic cards weren't all fast enough to hit constant 60fps, and same tier Nvidia vs AMD card the Nvidia cards get some extra performance we all know that (i.e. GTX260 vs 4870/5770). But the thing is when graphic cards as fast as the level of 670 and 7950, neither card would really have frame rate dropping to below 60fps due to GPU limitation...and when it does, it is always because of the CPU not keeping up and with GPU usage dipping, rather than at 99% usage.

So basically, the 670 has no advantage over 7950 in WOW at all for 1920 res 60Hz monitor users (120Hz monitor user though, then yea it would worth considering the 670 instead). Overall, the 7950 offer better spec (384-bit memory bus, 3GB vram), better performance all round for games in general, and better value (lower price AND with lots of free games).

nVidia hardware is SIGNIFICANTLY faster in WoW. At ultra settings in decent resolutions even the 7950 will see significantly less FPS, even getting close to the 60FPS mark. As good as a 7950 is, it does NOT monster WoW to the point where it does not matter how much faster nVidia is.

Not going to debate the 60Hz/120Hz and needing only the corresponding amount of FPS because it is a totally trash argument. 100 fps feels and plays better than 60 FPS, 60Hz monitor or not.

He wants a card for WoW, not all round gaming. nVidia will give him significantly better performance, both FPS and Frametimes.

 

[ShakeNBake]

100 fps feels and plays better than 60 FPS, 60Hz monitor or not.

wat.

 

[los]

Ok thanks all. I think I'm going to get the gtx670 as they have just dropped in price. I think the msi one over the kfa2 I hope the fan is up to it

 

[Antowns]

wat.

My thought exactly

 

[Marine-RX179]

100 fps feels and plays better than 60 FPS, 60Hz monitor or not.

Congratulation, you have just discredited everything you claim you knows or you think you know about graphic performance.

But since OP decided to go for the more expensive poorer value GTX670, there's nothing else to say here.

 

[Sin_Chase]

Are you lot about to bring the old, boring and tiring debate about what the "Human eye can see/resolve"?

Being able to push more than 60FPS is desirable, and is noticeable. 60FPS average is pretty....average performance.

Marine - He wanted a GPU for WoW. nVidia smashes AMD in WoW (by an order of 30-40%) and the OP made the right call by buying nVidia to play wow.

Better FPS, better frametimes, far more time above 60FPS. End of.

 

[los]

The gtx 670 is actually cheaper than the 7950 at the moment well for a half decent one anyway. So with it being cheaper although no games and better performance in wow it kinda makes sense, I think lol.
The 7950 prices seem to be going a bit crazy at the moment I nearly got a b grade 7970 for the same money, but I have to have more than 3 months guarantee when I spend that sort of money on a card.

 

[Guru]

Save some money and buy one of my 570's

 

[los]

Oh I cant as I cant access the members market lol

 

[Ian Evey]

Congratulation, you have just discredited everything you claim you knows or you think you know about graphic performance.

But since OP decided to go for the more expensive poorer value GTX670, there's nothing else to say here.

You mean better value for performance out of the box.

Sin_Chase made good points about wow and a 670 will run that particular game better. Good choice, you wont regret it. ( unless you get a duff card )

 

[bru]

so overclocking defiantly doesn't void your warranty? i don't want to risk it haha

It definitely doesn't.

Hehe, Don't worry thisiswar spoffle picked me up on the exact same mistake the other day. I get the feeling that he knows how to spell and doesn't rely on a spell checker, like I do for most things.


As for the Overclocking you will find that different companies will have different ideas on what you can and cannot do within your warranty.

for example Sapphire says.

Question: What is Overdrive ?
Answer: Overdrive is a driver integrated tool for optimising the performance of your graphics board. Overdrive has to be activated in the driver panel (checkbox) and is a temperature dependent overclocking of the graphics chip. This overclocking is covered by the guarantee. Should this feature not be available use ATI Tools instead.

So they obviously do cover overclocking.

Whereas HIS say.

What is NOT covered by the Warranty?

This Limited Warranty will not apply if a claim is made arising from any unacceptable use or care of the Product, including (without limitation) physically damaged, graphics card is burnt out, misuse, abuse, negligence, acts of God, unauthorized modification or repair, unauthorized commercial use and any operation of the Product outside HIS recommended parameters. This Limited Warranty is also invalid if any serial number or date stamp on the Product has been altered, obliterated or removed. Cosmetic damage and normal wear and tear are not covered.

Which could be taken to mean the moment you change the preset parameters of the card your warranty is invalid.

Now with that said, there is of course not really any evidence of overclocking via programs like afterburner and the like as the clocking is not changing the preset settings on the card permanently.

End of the day overclocking is free performance and pretty safe providing your not going to extremes. Enjoy it while you can because the way he hardware is going with smaller processes, locked voltages, various boost technologies and other things overclocking for the everyday consumer seems to be a dying out.

 

[ShakeNBake]

Are you lot about to bring the old, boring and tiring debate about what the "Human eye can see/resolve"?

how about, a monitor with a maximum frame rate of 60Hz cannot physically display a frame rate of above 60fps, so any fps over 60 makes 0 difference to the visual quality experienced.

..?

 

[los]

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-313-SP
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-164-MS

Well I think I will be ordering one of these tommorrow, decisions hey lol

 

[Marine-RX179]

how about, a monitor with a maximum frame rate of 60Hz cannot physically display a frame rate of above 60fps, so any fps over 60 makes 0 difference to the visual quality experienced.

Yea...look at all us chumps falling for the 120Hz monitors scams by companies, because 60Hz monitor does it all

 

[Marine-RX179]

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-017-KF
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-313-SP
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-164-MS
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-203-MS
Well I think I will be ordering one of these tommorrow, decisions hey lol

OP if your heart is set on GTX670, rather than a reference with a midget PCB relying on a blower cooler to extend the perceived length (manhood? ) of the card, at least see if you can find a custom GTX670 with a proper size PCB with better voltage regulator and custom cooler for may be £250-£260 if possible.

 

[Sin_Chase]

how about, a monitor with a maximum frame rate of 60Hz cannot physically display a frame rate of above 60fps, so any fps over 60 makes 0 difference to the visual quality experienced.

..?

Who is talking about displayed frame rate at the monitor?

Being able to PUSH more than 60FPS is desirable so you can lock out 60FPS MINIMUM, which is what counts.

As for experience, being able to deliver more than 60FPS can be felt, even on a 60Hz monitor.

 

[BluD]

For wow go nvidia, i still get pretty low FPS in WoW during raid bosses with my setup.

 

[los]

OP if your heart is set on GTX670, rather than a reference with a midget PCB relying on a blower cooler to extend the perceived length (manhood? ) of the card, at least see if you can find a custom GTX670 with a proper size PCB with better voltage regulator and custom cooler for may be £250-£260 if possible.

Well as it started out I only wanted to spend £200, so maybe a 7950 is a better choice and all those games Atleast it will have a decent cooler hey

 

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not a bad card and would run wow no issues