Best intro to Linux?

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@Rroff

spoiler 1 : why not `cat xml | nc host port` instead ?

spoiler 2 : slap across your wrists for storing passwords in a file and having them visible under running process lists :o

.... yes knowing this stuff doesn't give employability. Years of experience with some of the quirks in the trade helps a lot.

Funny thing is that once you've got in you'll find that all you'll be doing is noddy stuff like this.

Didn't know netcat existed at the time - I can script stuff like that in my sleep but there is always someone with better actual Linux knowledge hence my point heh.

Was actually wrapped in another system (virtualisation plus no end user had access outside of a locked down webmin based control panel) so if they could actually see the password either plaintext in file or passed on the command line in processes that was the least of security worries - but you are right that is a very bad technique to use and best avoided as a practise - it would be very easy for it to slip the mind and deploy something in that manner on a critical system.

EDIT: That is a good consideration to have in mind though as a good security practise - that passwords should never be passed along but read and checked by the final module - didn't occur to me at the time as I saw it all as one system protected by the whole rather than as separate components.

(That was bog standard game server stuff where the remote console password is stored in a plaintext config file anyhow - can't actually remember that far back but it may have been the game server itself wrote that password file)
 
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I just want a good place to start in the world of Linux so I can play about at my leisure and maybe learn something that could be useful to someone else down the line too.

I'd advise either installing directly various distros or if you want the easiest entry point just fire up VMs (vmware / virtualbox) with various install images and toy around with them until you get a setup you like!

If you emulate your hardware on the VM with that on your host machine you could directly copy the partition to your hard drive and just reboot into it if you were feeling brave. ;)

Start with something like Ubuntu! Easy to start with.
 
I had Ubuntu for a year and very rarely used it, I now have Fedora 22 on a VM but I've not had the time yet to fully dive in and investigate that.

I am considering getting this book,

http://www.amazon.co.uk/CompTIA-Cer...1687/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=A1JXFCACBWZLJY

It looks as though there is some kind of sim or virtual machine included that would allow me to learn some CLI syntax plus there could be a cert at the end of it too.

There are a few free online courses for those certs too, Cybrary that I've found so far.

https://www.cybrary.it/video/instructor-course-introduction/

http://www.linux.org/forums/beginner-tutorials.53/
 
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I have Fedora 22 installed for about a week now and thoroughly enjoying it so far,second install in fact as I didn't set it up correctly the first time.

Yesterday I installed cinnamon,the install completed in the cli and asked for a log out and log in or a re-boot to complete the install but as it was late I just turned the machine off and went to bed,thought that when I booted the pc today the option to boot into cinammon would be there but all I have is another option in the grub menu for a fedora 22 but with debug.

I go to the cli and try and install cinnamon again and it tells me cinnamon is already installed,I go to the cli and try and remove cinnamon and it tells me there is no cinnamon installed, both in the same minute.

I am bamboozled,perplexed and otherwise de-linuxified by this and would appreciate any insights that I can gather as I'm not having any luck googling the issue.

Thanks
 
Any tips on how to add it to the boot menu after it installs?

If you're using GPT partition table (which you should be anyway), then install Windows first - resize the Windows partition to give enough room for Linux. Then install Linux Mint and put the bootloader on the same partition as Linux. Do not install the GRUB bootloader to sda, instead install it to sda3 or whatever partition Linux Mint will be installed to.
 
Chugz, unless I'm reading it wrong APM isn't asking about Windows. He's referring to his earlier post where he's expecting Cinnamon to show as an option in the GRUB boot menu. APM, it doesn't. The boot menu is for kernels only, and as you update/add kernels you'll see the list grow (to the max set in the config, usually 2 or 3).

Cinnamon, as a desktop environment, would be selectable from the login/display manager (GDM etc). Did you install from a server/netinstall base? What I'm asking is did you install from a purely CLI OS or did you already have a different DE (such as Gnome, XFCE etc)?

If you installed Cinnamon from scratch (dnf install @cinnamon-desktop) then you'll possibly need to install a login manager (eg GDM) or at least enable it under systemd. When you boot and get dropped to a shell, try typing 'startx' and see what happens. Failing that try 'gdm'. If startx works you'll probably find it works OK every boot in future. If not you'll have to enable GDM (or your login / display manager here) in systemctl.

If you already had a GUI/DE installed then you'll find Cinnamon as one of the options under the cog / settings / menu icon at the login screen, like this:

Launch-Cinnamon.png
 
Hi,

yes,I had fedora 22 installed from an ISO with Gnome 3 as default and updated to the cinnamon desktop.

I was looking for an option to boot into cinnamon from the grub menu for some reason but I found that really quite tiny cog wheel on the log in screen and selected cinnamon from there and I've just finished tweaking that to my hearts content.

Well,almost,I can't see how to change the default colour of the taskbar itself yet but that will drop over the next few days I expect.

Thanks for your post Rainmaker that would have nailed it for me very well and if you don't mind I have another little poser for you...

When this pc boots into windows 7 or 10 I can transfer files across my home network at quite magnificent speeds,up to 137MB/s I've seen but using samba to connect from the linux install to a windows 7 machine and I'm lucky to see anything over 20Mb/s.

Is there a specific place I should look to help resolve that issue or is it a standard loss as the data moves between all the different protocols etc that it has to traverse?

Thanks again.
 
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