Best ping for CS2

kayone

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Curious to see which ISP offers best ping to UK based servers for CS2. I am currently with VM 1GB and seem to sit around 20 ping on average. Now others from the UK I have seen with as low as 4 ping - will it make a noticeable difference to gaming, probably not, but I'm interested to see understand what other people are pinging at.
 
Depends whether you can get fibre or not. I wouldn't have thought FTTC as an example would be much different to VM HFC (if that's what you're on).

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kayone said:
will it make a noticeable difference to gaming, probably not, but I'm interested to see understand what other people are pinging at.
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No - anything below 40ms without jitter or loss, is indistinguishable from <1ms.

The only thing I would say is that cable can be pretty bad in some areas, the more people in your area the worse it can get at certain times of the day. (This is the case with most broadband tech, but cable seems to be worse when it’s heavily loaded)

Setup a thinkbroadband monitor and look at the graphs over a few days/weeks, if it’ll give you an indication of the quality.

But at the end of the day, going below 40ms, let alone 20ms on a smooth connection is going to do nothing for your performance in a game.
 
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Armageus said:
And yet there is a market for monitors that are <1ms faster than others (e.g. 360hz = 0.00277 vs 480hz = 0.00208) :D
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Yeah it's total nonsense lol, input lag from your keyboard is around 20ms alone, add the mouse then your brain - which some studies say is around 100-120ms before it's even possible for you to act on anything you see.

The other thing that's also interesting, is quite often the 'ping' number you see is nonsense - some games only give you the 1 way time (time from the client to the server) and not the RTT (rount trip time), and others give you the ping time to the edge of their network, not the server.

In short - just play the damn game :D
 
ChrisD. said:
Depends whether you can get fibre or not. I wouldn't have thought FTTC as an example would be much different to VM HFC (if that's what you're on).

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Good question not sure actually. I assumed FTTP as I have the cable to the property but it could be HFC..?

Yes looks to be HFC using the link you provided.
 
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I'm in central scotland more than twice your distance to london on virgin coax, jitter is bad on virgin on top of the worse than fttc/fttp ping. You would get a far better quality connection from practically anyone else.
 
kayone said:
Curious to see which ISP offers best ping to UK based servers for CS2. I am currently with VM 1GB and seem to sit around 20 ping on average. Now others from the UK I have seen with as low as 4 ping - will it make a noticeable difference to gaming, probably not, but I'm interested to see understand what other people are pinging at.
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I'm using catv, I would prefer less jitter noise and corrected errors that a cable modem gives compaired to a proper fibre connection any day, I just do the best I can for now.
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kayone said:
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I'm not in the UK sorry, but it's a multi gig fibre to the home connection and the 2-4ms is what I get to local servers.

But as a side note, if you want your latency to be in the single digits you usually require a full fibre connection, where as yours appears to be a hybrid, so I suspect changing ISP alone may not yield the results you want
 
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kayone said:
Curious to see which ISP offers best ping to UK based servers for CS2. I am currently with VM 1GB and seem to sit around 20 ping on average. Now others from the UK I have seen with as low as 4 ping - will it make a noticeable difference to gaming, probably not, but I'm interested to see understand what other people are pinging at.
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Potentially, depends on the quality of the connection and the update rate/network architecture and/or latency compensation features of the game. In an ideal world it wouldn't count for much but we don't live in an ideal world.

Latency can be a weird thing - I've got multiple connections here due to living in a rural area without one perfect connection - playing on 4G or WiFi link which both have a very stable 25ms latency during the night (I'm actually shocked how relatively good they are given the distances involved to the masts), you can tell the difference between them despite showing the same netgraph in a game with pretty much identical stats for jitter or loss and both are vastly inferior to the ~10ms FTTC.

Grim5 said:
But as a side note, if you want your latency to be in the single digits you usually require a full fibre connection, where as yours appears to be a hybrid, so I suspect changing ISP alone may not yield the results you want
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Generally depends whereabouts you are in the UK and what kind of routing you are dealing with - when I was living in London in the early 2000s I had <4ms ping to game servers hosted in Telehouse (which most were back then) on ADSL and even when I moved back to my parents in the South West over 100 miles away it was still 4-6ms when BT weren't screwing up the routing. Where I'm living now in the South West which has FTTC (basically VDSL) it is ~10ms.
 
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Rroff said:
Potentially, depends on the quality of the connection and the update rate/network architecture and/or latency compensation features of the game. In an ideal world it wouldn't count for much but we don't live in an ideal world.
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Yes it appears to by hybrid and there's currently no way for me to get FTTC at this time which is a shame.
 
kayone said:
Curious to see which ISP offers best ping to UK based servers for CS2. I am currently with VM 1GB and seem to sit around 20 ping on average. Now others from the UK I have seen with as low as 4 ping - will it make a noticeable difference to gaming, probably not, but I'm interested to see understand what other people are pinging at.
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I think it does make a huge difference, although it is something that people with low pings always deny. You find a really good player and chances are that their ping is very low.

I remember I was one of the first people in the UK to get fibre. My ping to European servers was 8ms. No way you will get that now.

Another interesting fact, did you know that many stock exchanges and traders don't use fibre unless they are forced to? It's too slow. They use radio and dishes instead because the signals travel much faster in the air than in fibres.
 
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