Best SFF GPU upgrade (320W PSU)?

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Hi all

I just got an old HP Elite 8200 from work (i5 2400, 3.1GHz, Q67 chipset) and I wondered what the best GPU upgrade would be. It's an SFF, so it would need to be low-profile, and the PSU's only 320W so that might constrain things a bit.

I might look at upgrading the PSU if possible, but if there's a decent card that I can just stick in I'd prefer the lazy option.

It's potentially to replace my ageing desktop -- Q9550, 4GB, 560Ti, so it'd need to outstrip it (I know the i5 is already streets ahead of the Q9550, but I wouldn't want to bottleneck that with a GPU that's not significantly better than the 560Ti).

Any advice welcome!
 
dont bother, there are no decent low profile GPUs and its unlikely you can upgrade the PSU.. scrap it and pinch the i5 and find a motherboard on fleabay. and put it in ur old deskotop
 
Kurgen said:
dont bother, there are no decent low profile GPUs and its unlikely you can upgrade the PSU.. scrap it and pinch the i5 and find a motherboard on fleabay. and put it in ur old deskotop
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Sad to hear that :(

I've seen some discussion of the GTX 750Ti, is that not a possibility?
 
Kurgen said:
dont bother, there are no decent low profile GPUs and its unlikely you can upgrade the PSU.. scrap it and pinch the i5 and find a motherboard on fleabay. and put it in ur old deskotop
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This.

We had a bunch of HP Elite 8200 at work, took the CPU's, HDD and ram out and binned the rest.

If you look at the PSU, its HP's own custom made for that build. Im sure even the low profile 750ti still need a power connector. The PSU doesn't have any spare, making it hard to upgrade. Hence why we binned them all.
 
malachi said:
This.

We had a bunch of HP Elite 8200 at work, took the CPU's, HDD and ram out and binned the rest.

If you look at the PSU, its HP's own custom made for that build. Im sure even the low profile 750ti still need a power connector. The PSU doesn't have any spare, making it hard to upgrade. Hence why we binned them all.
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What sort of mobo would you pair the i5-2400 with? I just discovered that the 6th gen ones aren't backwards-compatible, so I'm wondering if it would be a waste at this stage to get a mobo for a 2nd gen i5, only to have to replace it when I upgrade the CPU in the future...
 
Even if you did upgrade the PSU (or use molex to PCI-E adapters etc), you may find that the PCI-E slot doesn't deliver the full 75W of the specification and is normally limited to 25 or 35W on the SFF versions.
 
Armageus said:
Even if you did upgrade the PSU (or use molex to PCI-E adapters etc), you may find that the PCI-E slot doesn't deliver the full 75W of the specification and is normally limited to 25 or 35W on the SFF versions.
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Yep, I'm thinking upgrading is now a non-starter.

Now just having to decide whether it's worth keeping the i5-2400, or dumping the whole lot and starting from scratch.
 
You be looking at HD 2000/3000/4000/5000/6000 and maybe a 7000 series that would be of any decency with the 5 & 6 series supported by dx11.

What was your actual intentions for this?
 
You're in luck: you can get a low profile GTX 950 from Palit, Asus, and Galax amongst others. I'm sure OCUK would be delighted to source it for you.
 
Armageus said:
Except it probably won't work properly, as likely will need the full 75w from the Pci-e slot (which sff do not provide)
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On what do you base that statement? The webpage for that PC says it's a full x16 slot and it's the same motherboard that goes into the non-SFF version.
 
ExoMale said:
You be looking at HD 2000/3000/4000/5000/6000 and maybe a 7000 series that would be of any decency with the 5 & 6 series supported by dx11.

What was your actual intentions for this?
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Just to re-use some old hardware for some casual gaming (with minimal expense)
 
Apologies for late reply:

Quartz said:
On what do you base that statement? The webpage for that PC says it's a full x16 slot and it's the same motherboard that goes into the non-SFF version.
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I base it on experience with earlier versions of HP's SFF (dc7900 in particular), and also HPs more detailed Quickspecs PDF, which seems to be unavailable from their main website (comes up with an IIS error for me), but try here:

Page 22 lists the slot configurations

http://shop.itema-pg.com/userfiles/editor/file/hp8200sff.pdf

Page 22 of PDF said:
1 each x16 slot
2.5” low profile
6.6” length
25W max. power
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references:
http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c03412787
 
has anyone actually tried this? I've just had an 8200 that was being scrapped out at work, thinking this may be a possibility for a small gaming build...
 
There's a low profile 1050 Ti. Assuming the above about the PCI slot is untrue, there shouldn't be any problem running that in an SFF PC with a 320W PSU.
 
yeah i as looking at the msi 1050ti low profile, but the 25W max on PCI express x16 port makes me think its not going to work, at least not for gaming.... just wondered if anyone has actually tried it. Looks like a legit HP user guide.
 
satchef1 said:
There's a low profile 1050 Ti. Assuming the above about the PCI slot is untrue, there shouldn't be any problem running that in an SFF PC with a 320W PSU.
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Honestly with HP and Dell PC's don't assume anything - while everything looks normal and indeed "looks" like the same motherboard from the tower - as the user guide shows they aren't (even if the differences are artificial limits).


locrieth said:
yeah i as looking at the msi 1050ti low profile, but the 25W max on PCI express x16 port makes me think its not going to work, at least not for gaming.... just wondered if anyone has actually tried it. Looks like a legit HP user guide.
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As above, I haven't personally tried it on an 8200, but I have a 7900 SFF that the kids used to use - it definitely is limited, and even with a low end card like a Radeon 6450 performance was below what it should be
 
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