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Best thermal paste
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For large surface areas like GPUs you need a different type of paste really - ideally something designed for manually spreading.
IIRC when I was testing awhile back MX-2 was actually one of the better ones for GPUs out of what I had available like AS5 and MX-4, etc.
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Any thoughts on this, or am I overthinking it (which would be rare for me actually lol)?
Personally I've never had any problems with longevity with anything other than generic pastes which come bundled with some hardware and earlier batches of Thermal Grizzly stuff (though supposedly that has been fixed). AS5, MX-4, etc. has held up for like a decade plus in some applications for me when applied properly.
Likewise. I know people that religiously tear down their PC's to repaste/clean every few months. Outside of perhaps enjoying the process, it's an utterly pointless exercise with 95% of thermal pastes/use cases, at worst they're actually increasing the chances of something going wrong with needless faff.
Blast your rig with some air once in awhile and monitor temps, it's rare that paste longevity will be a problem.
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Sometimes that is due to people persisting in using incorrect/sub-standard application methods - even when it might not always impact performance it can impact lifespan - incorrect hand spreading of AS5 for example can result in it needing to be reapplied every couple of years or so.
I could look it up but IIRC correctly applied MX-4 should on average last at least 7 years or something with no performance degradation (EDIT: 8 years shelf life, 7 years applied).
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I have MX-4 on a few things running on close to 5 years with zero issues, it's hard to go wrong with in my experience.
I think a lot of people are of the mindset that "general maintenance = good" but take it a step too far. I've lost count of the number of people that come to forums (this one included) to complain about things going wrong after a repaste, and when questioned they usually had no reason to have done one other than the idea it was necessary just in case.
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I can recommend DeepCool DM9 Master, a bit better than TG Kryonaut
I suffered thermal paste pump out on my 4090 with MX6 after about a month or so.
I didn't know what this was at the time so repasted it with MX6 again
. The pump out may occur again...
If it does I'll use the PTM7950 stuff that many recommend for direct die applications.
I didn't know what this was at the time so repasted it with MX6 again
. The pump out may occur again...If it does I'll use the PTM7950 stuff that many recommend for direct die applications.
Yeah for surface areas that size you want a thin spread layer of a more viscous paste, a blob of something like MX-4/6 isn't ideal on something like a 4090.
Intel CPUs especially are a bit different as you usually have a rectangular package under the IHS which doesn't take up the whole area and the surface is often less than flat.
Intel CPUs especially are a bit different as you usually have a rectangular package under the IHS which doesn't take up the whole area and the surface is often less than flat.
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I suffered thermal paste pump out on my 4090 with MX6 after about a month or so.
I didn't know what this was at the time so repasted it with MX6 again
If it does I'll use the PTM7950 stuff that many recommend for direct die applications.
The contact looks pretty poor. Some kind of pad or a better fitting cooler might be the way to go.
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Been using PTM 7950 on the Steam Deck for a long time and it's been great, had enough left over to try it on the 7950X3D and it's seems to be working very well. Pain to apply a larger size even when it's been in the fridge for a few hours but so much easier than spreading or hoping the pea method does a nice coverage as it's always a perfectly even amount every time.
Other than that I've been using Prolimatech PK3 for years on my CPUs and GPUs and it seems to last for ages, easy to spread and doesn't dry out quickly.
Other than that I've been using Prolimatech PK3 for years on my CPUs and GPUs and it seems to last for ages, easy to spread and doesn't dry out quickly.
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Unless the surfaces are very well finished/lapped you want a paste which will as best possible try and optimally fill the space - having a perfect even coverage with a less than perfect finish isn't optimal. Which is why it makes me facepalm when people persist with hand spreading AS5 in situations where doing so is suboptimal.
Just need to be flat. After around 800 grit the finish irrelevant. Go to 1000 if you must, but it will make zero difference.
Flat is the big one but once you get to a certain level of finish you hardly need much thermal paste at all to get optimal performance, as per the Arctic Silver documentation I linked to before.
Trust me, I’m professional. At 800 grit you are already sub micron and particles within the TIM become an issue. The finish is completely irrelevant past around that point.
Temps will get worse the more you polish. Flat and approaching sub micron scratches is what you want to achieve.
You'll need special polishing pastes or similar to get a finish where the particle sizes in a paste like AS5 are an issue, even 1000 grit won't get close to that.
(Arctic Silver 5 is rated down to 2000 grit mirror finish before performance is impacted by particle size).
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Go for it.
For everyone else, no point lapping past 1000 grit. Flat and lapping upto 800 grit in stages is all you need. 1000 if you must.
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arctic generally the best as mentioned already, id just stick with them
He asked for the best performance so it's liquid metal. But agreed it's downsides are just too much outside of benchmarking and going for records