*** Big Fat Weight Loss Thread ***

The one aspect of using drugs I dislike and why I don't think is sustainable is because how you are stopping yourself eating.

You are not eating because of the drug. You are NOT not eating because of the lifestyle choices and changes you made yourself. It is a result of the drug. The crux of it is will you keep to 600 calories a day (or whatever that number is), once this variable is removed, and a VERY strong one at that. Once this hunger suppressant has been removed from your body, everything else will just come flooding back. Without "training" or adapting your diet, how will you keep this up?

To do this with the drug, I would expect one to also shift their diet together with it, not just eating half a bacon sandwich instead of a full one, but just stop eating bacon sandwiches altogether (or save it as a treat once every 2 months). Shift to Greek Yoghurt and berries instead. You also need to introduce exercise in the life as well. These creates that foundation to a healthier body and sustainable lifestyle. You shouldn't see losing weight as a diet, a diet is temporary but a lifestyle is who you are.

That's the key part, by all means use the drugs as a helping hand but guardrails need to put in place while you are on the drug so when you are off it, you don't fall off.
 
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Once this hunger suppressant has been removed from your body, everything else will just come flooding back. Without "training" or adapting your diet, how will you keep this up?
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For me, I had a food addiction - I found it almost impossible to change, (I used to get up at 2am to drive to the shop to buy chocolate), for me - Mounjaro was a lever that just stopped it, and it stopped it to the point where I could 'unaddict' myself - make good progress and get me back to where I was before Covid.

When I came off it, I had a strict plan in place to prevent relapse (which has worked brilliantly so far), but you are absolutely correct - you need a solid plan for when you come off it, otherwise you'll relapse and just go back to the starting state.
 
Felon said:
(I used to get up at 2am to drive to the shop to buy chocolate)
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This is kinda shocking :eek: Why wouldn't you stagger in the darkness to the cupboard where you keep your Kitkats and Penguin bars, like the rest of us? (Surely we're not the only ones that gobble some chocolate in the night? I don't see it as a big problem...)

It strikes me your problem is planning, not your diet :p





Obviously, I'm joking. I do think I have a bit of an addiction, though. Probably many of us in this thread do? I can't stop thinking about eating unless I keep myself very busy, or just have to use will power...
 
I don't think it is a eating problem but a sugar spike / insulin problem. Since eating better now I have gone off this sugar addiction, there are a few cans of lemonade at home and I look at them with an almost "meh" and disgust thought in my head. I don't crave ice cream or even chocolate bars. I still eat carbs like bread and rice but the portions are much smaller now. It's a mental and habit shift that has happened over the course of weeks and a few months.

When I go to the supermarket to get my 85% chocolate I don't even stop to look at the Cadbury's section.

I enjoy eating a few walnuts or half an orange instead of a packet of crisps. It's got to a point where they don't interest me anymore, the cravings for them has disappeared.

I "had" to get a bacon baguette this morning because it's bank holiday weekend and the smallest size I could get is 1kg, plus I need to eat "more" for a few days to reset my body's systems....anyway, I got this. Normally I would only eat this max once a month even before my diet as a treat, I would split it half for breakfast and half for lunch due to the amount of bacon. There's also 4 sausages inside...

I ate half for breakfast and honestly I am DONE, at lunch time I had like 120g of frozen berries instead. I cannot finish it!

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I don't think it is a eating problem but a sugar spike / insulin problem. Since eating better now I have gone off this sugar addiction, there are a few cans of lemonade at home and I look at them with an almost "meh" and disgust thought in my head. I don't crave ice cream or even chocolate bars. I still eat carbs like bread and rice but the portions are much smaller now. It's a mental and habit shift that has happened over the course of weeks and a few months.

When I go to the supermarket to get my 85% chocolate I don't even stop to look at the Cadbury's section.

I enjoy eating a few walnuts or half an orange instead of a packet of crisps. It's got to a point where they don't interest me anymore, the cravings for them has disappeared.

I "had" to get a bacon baguette this morning because it's bank holiday weekend and the smallest size I could get is 1kg, plus I need to eat "more" for a few days to rest my body's systems....anyway, I got this. Normally I would only eat this max once a month even before my diet as a treat, I would split it half for breakfast and half for lunch due to the amount of bacon. There's also 4 sausages inside...

I ate half for breakfast and honestly I am DONE, at lunch time I had like 120g of frozen berries instead. I cannot finish it!

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That's like heaven on a plate for me!
 
AndyCr15 said:
This is kinda shocking :eek: Why wouldn't you stagger in the darkness to the cupboard where you keep your Kitkats and Penguin bars, like the rest of us? (Surely we're not the only ones that gobble some chocolate in the night? I don't see it as a big problem...)
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lol, it got to one point where it was impossible for chocolate to be in the house at all, i'd smash all of it - the moment it was there.

Never smoked, never drunk much alcohol - but that stuff was my addiction, especially during and after Covid.

Now I have a PT and I track everything I eat with strict macros, and everything is fine - I don't crave it all anymore, things are completely different now.
 
100% food addict here! I need to be very busy or strict/mindful with my eating. I sometimes find myself elbow deep in a box of lindor in front of the telly and have to give my head a wobble!
 
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Slept in on the day off, small poo and weight in a 74.3kg!!!

Don’t know how, i had that bacon baguette yesterday and it was so salty I drank a lot of water. Expecting to be holding more water due to that and it went down over a lb?!
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Nice one! One big meal does not mean automatic weight gain! You’ve been super sensible otherwise, so you’re winning in that regard.

Perhaps it’s your body telling you that you need to eat more bacon baguettes?!
 
Been away on a course for a week, hotel was booked B&B - i haven't eaten breakfast in a year :( 2 out of 4 days i had a sausage sandwich. Although they tried to give me 2 huge ciabatta rolls; ate one and asked for only one roll on the last day i ate breakfast.

First night (Sunday), the hotel wasn't doing evening food :( Ended up with a Chicken and black bean sauce Chinese (only place open in the back of beyond). Was then worried as no gym for the week and each night was pub grub at the hotel. However, am pleased to report I came back 3lbs lighter, no idea how, but i'll take it!
 
Felon said:
For me, I had a food addiction - I found it almost impossible to change, (I used to get up at 2am to drive to the shop to buy chocolate), for me - Mounjaro was a lever that just stopped it, and it stopped it to the point where I could 'unaddict' myself - make good progress and get me back to where I was before Covid.

When I came off it, I had a strict plan in place to prevent relapse (which has worked brilliantly so far), but you are absolutely correct - you need a solid plan for when you come off it, otherwise you'll relapse and just go back to the starting state.
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When you say food addiction was it to specific food or the pleasure from eating? I say this as when I asked someone about this before they said GLP-1 actually changed their thinking about food.

I guess from what you are saying it didnt help with people like yourself who fundamentally enjoy food (not from boredom)?
 
Raymond Lin said:
Pack of bacon for a family of four.
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How was that £4.50?:eek:

On a more serious note, having been on a "zero" type soda kick for several years, regular full sugar coke tastes weird. More than that I find my mouth ends up with some weird coating from consuming high sugar content like tannins from tea.
 
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When you say food addiction was it to specific food or the pleasure from eating? I say this as when I asked someone about this before they said GLP-1 actually changed their thinking about food.

I guess from what you are saying it didnt help with people like yourself who fundamentally enjoy food (not from boredom)?
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MJ for me:
  1. I tried losing weight on my own, i lost 1 stone in 6 month. As with this generation, i wanted instant gratification :cry:. Lost a stone a month for 4 month.
  2. MJ stops me raiding the fridge, or grabbing a biscuit (or several) from the cupboard when walking past.
  3. I feel fuller with smaller meals = less calorie intake.
  4. I understand that with MJ you lose muscle as well as fat. As i was also spending £££'s on the treatment, i'm tight and want value for money = kick starting me a gym routine which i have kept up so far 9 months.
Been on MJ for 9 months now and have only got as high as 10mg for last 17 jabs, i know it is getting less effective as i have hunger pangs every now and again. Not sure if i should move up, or take this as an opportunity to resist the urges for when i eventually come off - if i ever do. Either remain on 2.5mg for maintenance or see what the tablets are able to do when released.
 
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How was that £4.50?:eek:

On a more serious note, having been on a "zero" type soda kick for several years, regular full sugar coke tastes weird. More than that I find my mouth ends up with some weird coating from consuming high sugar content like tannins from tea.
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I have no idea, there easily like 2 packs of bacon in there, and then 2 sausages.

I never eat it all in one go and I would always ask them to cut it in half and split it between breakfast and lunch. Even then, there’s always bacon on the side because it won’t fit inside the baguette.
 
ivrytwr3 said:
MJ for me:
  1. I tried losing weight on my own, i lost 1 stone in 6 month. As with this generation, i wanted instant gratification :cry:. Lost a stone a month for 4 month.
  2. MJ stops me raiding the fridge, or grabbing a biscuit (or several) from the cupboard when walking past.
  3. I feel fuller with smaller meals = less calorie intake.
  4. I understand that with MJ you lose muscle as well as fat. As i was also spending £££'s on the treatment, i'm tight and want value for money = kick starting me a gym routine which i have kept up so far 9 months.
Been on MJ for 9 months now and have only got as high as 10mg for last 17 jabs, i know it is getting less effective as i have hunger pangs every now and again. Not sure if i should move up, or take this as an opportunity to resist the urges for when i eventually come off - if i ever do. Either remain on 2.5mg for maintenance or see what the tablets are able to do when released.
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Are you also switching your diet to things that reduce hunger spikes? Or have things ready to snack on that is both low in calories and good for you?

As you know I’m not on any drugs, just tweaks to my diet and hitting the gym. But the tweaks to my diet has made me not snack anymore. I found Greek yoghurt with frozen berries with pumpkin seeds incredibly nice as a meal. It feels like cheating because it taste like dessert.

if I’m peckish I get like 50-75g or more frozen berries out of the freezer and a little honey and eat that. Lots of fibre and the (forgot the chemical in the berries) are good at lowering cholesterol and also reduce visceral fat in the belly. And because it’s cold, it taste like dessert!

I think frozen berries is the cheat code, just eat it frozen. Don’t go off and good value for money compare to fresh ones.
 
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