Big PC upgrade , need some help

littlebigman98

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Hi All,

Current build is as follows -

Monitor -

ASUS 27" Quad HD 165Hz Adaptive Sync HDR Gaming Monitor​

Case
PCS 8223B BLACK TEMPERED GLASS WINDOW GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor i7-7700 (3.6GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z270P-D3: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2133MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
GeForce RTX 2070S
1st Storage Drive
250GB Samsung 850 2.5" EVO SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H55 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler

I’m looking to upgrade the Mobo, RAM, CPU , PSU & will also need a new CPU cooler.


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Please see my current list of upgrades, do these seem a good choice?

Can someone recommend a future proofed modern case too? Struggling to find one
 
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Hi .

Your list link below.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,067.94 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

There is changes you can make to make things cheaper but generally a good choice .

You need an m2 drive to make use of latest tech and speeds .
 
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
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Corsair Vengeance EXPO/XMP 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit
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littlebigman98 said:
Thanks for the Mobo suggestion, what M2 drives would you recommend?
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1tb this
.

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Lexar NM790 1TB NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 Solid State Drive (LNM790X001T-RNNNG)

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2tb this is blisteringly fast

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MSI SPATIUM M480 Pro 2TB SSD PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive

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Thanks so much pal,

Going to order all this tonight!

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Will try and get away with my current case, will order the one suggested by yourself if needed
 
littlebigman98 said:
Thanks so much pal,

Going to order all this tonight!

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Will try and get away with my current case, will order the one suggested by yourself if needed
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Your welcome

If you get yourself a new case you can basically sell your old pc complete .

£150 for a water cooler is to expensive look into getting something cheaper.


On first boot with am5 it can take up to 15 mins for anything on screen as the motherboard is training the memory, be patient.

If you want a decent air cooler take a look at the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 se it's the price to performance king.


Enjoy.
 
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The Peerless Assassin used to be the price to performance king but has now been usurped by the Thermalright Phantom Spirit SE120 which has a extra heatpipe and cools slightly better albeit 90 pence more expensive for the normal unlighted version. The ARGB version is actually cheaper than the Peerless Assassin now at under £30. Thermalright also do some very good AIO's which are also cheaper than their competitors.

OCUK really has to start stocking Thermalright coolers and it's really strange that they aren't. Based on the sheer numbers we are recommending on here they would be a good seller.
 
I’m really at my wits end with this build and hoping someone can help out. I’m bordering on just returning all the hardware. Assuming that’s possible haha.


I’m constantly getting blue screens when windows is left idle, games crashing requiring a verification of game files. Just for it to happen again.

I’ve lowered the speeds of the ram from 6k to 4k and done a -15 with the curve optimiser. Turned expo off.

I’m getting the memory check , and security kernel BSOD.

My M2 is in the pcie 4 slot.

I’ve disabled integrated graphics driver.

I’ve done a mem check on the ram with no issues present.

Tried the OS on a HDD with nothing on the M2 , still same issues.

Anyone got any ideas?

To me it seems like a mobo issue , could I return this and get the original one I wanted?

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Anyone got any ideas? I’m not finding anything online to help.
 
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With older Ryzen CPUs (pre-AM5) that had problems @ idle, it was prudent to boost the minimum voltages a bit and I'd still use a higher DRAM voltage than stock, even when running @ 4800.

littlebigman98 said:
done a -15 with the curve optimiser
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This is an undervolt, no? I'd disable it, or set it to a slight positive value.

Is there anything in the event viewer?

I assume you're not using a riser? If so, try setting the PCI-E gen to gen 3.
 
littlebigman98 said:
The event viewer produces dmp files, had Microsoft look into it and they said it was pointing to a display driver?
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Unstable Ryzen CPUs tend to produce lots of WHEA errors, that's why I mentioned it. If Microsoft say that your graphics driver is the problem, then it is not hard to test that theory (e.g. install an older one, or try using integrated graphics instead).

I assume you installed all the chipset drivers and what not?
 
heres the latest one


MEMORY_MANAGEMENT (1a)
# Any other values for parameter 1 must be individually examined.
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000000403, The subtype of the BugCheck.
Arg2: ffffc93fff3f0d50
Arg3: 81000004dca86005
Arg4: ffffc90122426c30

Debugging Details:
------------------


KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1

Key : Analysis.CPU.mSec
Value: 1531

Key : Analysis.Elapsed.mSec
Value: 2573

Key : Analysis.IO.Other.Mb
Value: 0

Key : Analysis.IO.Read.Mb
Value: 0

Key : Analysis.IO.Write.Mb
Value: 0

Key : Analysis.Init.CPU.mSec
Value: 156

Key : Analysis.Init.Elapsed.mSec
Value: 2854

Key : Analysis.Memory.CommitPeak.Mb
Value: 98

Key : Bugcheck.Code.LegacyAPI
Value: 0x1a

Key : Failure.Bucket
Value: 0x1a_403_nt!MiDeletePteRun

Key : Failure.Hash
Value: {6e89a852-58e8-3dbb-af93-60d80dcc29e5}

Key : WER.OS.Branch
Value: ni_release

Key : WER.OS.Version
Value: 10.0.22621.1


BUGCHECK_CODE: 1a

BUGCHECK_P1: 403

BUGCHECK_P2: ffffc93fff3f0d50

BUGCHECK_P3: 81000004dca86005

BUGCHECK_P4: ffffc90122426c30

FILE_IN_CAB: 012224-5078-01.dmp

BLACKBOXBSD: 1 (!blackboxbsd)


BLACKBOXNTFS: 1 (!blackboxntfs)


BLACKBOXPNP: 1 (!blackboxpnp)


BLACKBOXWINLOGON: 1

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

PROCESS_NAME: svchost.exe

STACK_TEXT:
fffff682`94fe6b28 fffff804`5ae74748 : 00000000`0000001a 00000000`00000403 ffffc93f`ff3f0d50 81000004`dca86005 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
fffff682`94fe6b30 fffff804`5ac4f638 : 00000000`00000000 fffff682`94fe6df0 ffffc900`00000000 fffff682`94fe6df0 : nt!MiDeletePteRun+0x254ae8
fffff682`94fe6d20 fffff804`5ac5060d : ffffc93f`ff3f0dc0 00007ffe`00000000 00000000`00000002 fffff682`94fe6e50 : nt!MiDeleteVaTail+0x48
fffff682`94fe6d50 fffff804`5ac4a67a : ffffa10b`25cdf590 ffffa10b`264bd0c0 fffff682`94fe70f0 ffffa10b`264bd7c0 : nt!MiDeletePagablePteRange+0x2ed
fffff682`94fe7060 fffff804`5b0e5107 : 00000000`00000000 fffff682`00000001 00007ffe`7df50000 ffffa10b`23434d00 : nt!MiDeleteVirtualAddresses+0x4e
fffff682`94fe70b0 fffff804`5b12e8dd : 00007ffe`7e1a0000 ffffa10b`2341d100 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!MiDeleteVad+0x1b7
fffff682`94fe7170 fffff804`5b12e4a3 : ffffa10b`2341d100 00000000`00000000 ffffa10b`264bd0c0 00000000`00000000 : nt!MiUnmapVad+0x49
fffff682`94fe71a0 fffff804`5b10a6a5 : ffffa10b`23437b40 ffffa10b`23437b40 ffffa10b`23437b40 ffffa10b`25cdf0c0 : nt!MiCleanVad+0x2f
fffff682`94fe71d0 fffff804`5b08da5d : ffffffff`00000000 ffffffff`ffffffff 00000000`00000001 ffffa10b`25cdf0c0 : nt!MmCleanProcessAddressSpace+0x10d
fffff682`94fe7250 fffff804`5b0dc692 : ffffa10b`25cdf0c0 ffffe605`04ad1a20 ffffa10b`25cdf0c0 00000000`00000000 : nt!PspRundownSingleProcess+0xc1
fffff682`94fe72e0 fffff804`5b121d52 : 00000000`00000000 ffffa10b`25cdf001 ffffa10b`264bd134 0000006c`bd768000 : nt!PspExitThread+0x64e
fffff682`94fe73e0 fffff804`5ae2bbe8 : ffffa10b`00002c34 ffffa10b`264bd0c0 ffffa10b`25cdf0c0 ffffa10b`00000000 : nt!NtTerminateProcess+0xf2
fffff682`94fe7460 00007ffe`8252f8f4 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiSystemServiceCopyEnd+0x28
0000006c`bd5cfb68 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x00007ffe`8252f8f4


SYMBOL_NAME: nt!MiDeletePteRun+254ae8

MODULE_NAME: nt

IMAGE_VERSION: 10.0.22621.3007

STACK_COMMAND: .cxr; .ecxr ; kb

IMAGE_NAME: ntkrnlmp.exe

BUCKET_ID_FUNC_OFFSET: 254ae8

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: 0x1a_403_nt!MiDeletePteRun

OS_VERSION: 10.0.22621.1

BUILDLAB_STR: ni_release

OSPLATFORM_TYPE: x64

OSNAME: Windows 10

FAILURE_ID_HASH: {6e89a852-58e8-3dbb-af93-60d80dcc29e5}

Followup: MachineOwner
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Tetras said:
Unstable Ryzen CPUs tend to produce lots of WHEA errors, that's why I mentioned it. If Microsoft say that your graphics driver is the problem, then it is not hard to test that theory (e.g. install an older one, or try using integrated graphics instead).

I assume you installed all the chipset drivers and what not?
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yeah chipset is up to date
 
littlebigman98 said:
heres the latest one

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MEMORY_MANAGEMENT (1a)
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General advice for this is the same old garbage:
- Broken drivers.
- Broken memory.
- Hardware problems.

I'd:
- Put everything back to stock, and/or slightly overvolt.
- If you have any old devices that don't have officially compatible drivers (or you're not sure), then pull them (e.g. old soundcard, wireless).
- If your graphics card is old, pull it and use the integrated graphics.
- If you have any old software that might be an issue: kill it.
- If memtest passes, try just using one stick in the manual-advised slot anyway.

littlebigman98 said:
would a return of mobo be possible?
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Did you buy it separately, or as part of a bundle?

If you got it separately, then I don't see why not, but you'd obviously have to start the RMA process with the retailer and they may ask that you follow some troubleshooting steps before they accept a return, or may even advise that you return everything together, so they can identify the issue. If you're able to return under DSR, or if it needs to be an RMA, would be their discretion and subject to how long you've had it in your possession.

From what you have described, I don't know what the problem is, but I'd strongly advise you remove that undervolt because it undermines any further troubleshooting steps.
 
cool, thanks tetras. im just in a microsoft live chat having them take a look at the latest bsod error. i'll remove the undervolt and lower ram speeds when done.

the gpu is a 2070s , the only component from my old build that has never had any issues.

when doing those voltage changes and lower speeds i moved the M2 from pcie 5 to 4, perhaps that was the issue but i believe its meant to be backwards compatible, so not hanging my hat on it
 
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littlebigman98 said:
when doing those voltage changes and lower speeds i moved the M2 from pcie 5 to 4, perhaps that was the issue but i believe its meant to be backwards compatible, so not hanging my hat on it
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What is your M.2 drive? Gen 4? I wouldn't expect it to be a problem, but if you're having issues, I'd avoid the BIOS 'auto' setting for both the graphics and M.2 slot(s) and set it manually.
 
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