Oh how wrong you are. I would do some research but you seem to think OSX is "the king of all OS's"
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Oh how wrong you are. I would do some research but you seem to think OSX is "the king of all OS's"
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Fair enough - I stand corrected. This wasn't something I had heard on the net but something I had been educated by my chemistry/physics teacher when at school. It just proves you shouldn't pay attention to everything you're taught.
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There was never an argument, it was educational for some of us - it was an interesting bit of information. I'd sooner shut you up than that conversation.
Fair enough - I stand corrected. This wasn't something I had heard on the net but something I had been educated by my chemistry/physics teacher when at school. It just proves you shouldn't pay attention to everything you're taught.
thats also fair enough - my 14 year old half sister sometimes rings me up to get science answers for her homework and half the stuff the teacher tells her is actually wrong.
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No. OS X is good and on a personal and professional level I think it is better than Windows. It is not, however, king of all operating systems. After all I would not advocate installing it on a heart monitor for example (QNX would be your best bet here) - different horses for different courses.
You say "how wrong I am" yet don't seem to provide a reason, rather you give a slur on my preference of OS X.
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There was never an argument, it was educational for some of us - it was an interesting bit of information. I'd sooner shut you up than that conversation.
Sure it was educational but it was starting to turn into one of OCUK's circular debates. The MOT one was far more annoying than the glass one anyway.
Free Speech anyway, Mr Don
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Hello LordSplodge, what are your reasons behind your above statement?
User Account Control.
Changes to the user interface make doing simple things more complex.
Silly hardware demands.
Activation who har
XP is far better than Vista. Hell it runs a lot faster. Server 2008 is good too, so why can't Vista be made good? SP1 had the chance and didn't.
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Sure it was educational but it was starting to turn into one of OCUK's circular debates. The MOT one was far more annoying than the glass one anyway.
Free Speech anyway, Mr Don
Who said anything about free?!
aardvark - this was about 16 years ago - I hope education levels haven't got worse!
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Hello LordSplodge, if you understand how the User Account Control actually works and it's purpose, you would retract your above statement.
Such as?
Compared to Windows XP? You must remember that Windows Vista was released around 6 years after Windows XP and the higher hardware requirements should really come of no surprise.
In what way exactly?
I'd add the fact that explorer can still crash, and Windows won't handle it gracefully. FFS my Win2k workstation at work handles explorer crashes better.
Still, at least Minesweeper has been upgraded
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I understand what it's purpose is but it simply doesn't work. it is constantly in your face and as a professional computer user it gets in my way. I'd hate to be a novice computer user and be faced with the UAC dialogue box.
Hardware demands. Sure XP is 6 years old but it didn't have the same level of hardware demands that Vista does and what do you get in Vista for all this extra hardware demands? Aero? No thanks.
I have an issue with Activation in XP too but it has gotten a lot stricter in Vista. Treating your customers like thieves (music and movie industry, anybody?) is not the way to go.
Given the nature of these forums I think I may be going out on a limb here. If you like Vista then go for it. I'll stick to XP on my computers but I really do think it is a lemon...
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I'd add the fact that explorer can still crash, and Windows won't handle it gracefully. FFS my Win2k workstation at work handles explorer crashes better.
Still, at least Minesweeper has been upgraded
That should never happen.
Hurray for a voice on my side!
I'd add the fact that explorer can still crash, and Windows won't handle it gracefully. FFS my Win2k workstation at work handles explorer crashes better.
Still, at least Minesweeper has been upgraded
handles driver crashes excellently, and the only time I've gotten explorer to freeze it was fixed by ending explorer process then just starting it as a new task in task manager.
Yes thats how I handle explorer crashes/freezes on Win2k at work. The other day I backed up my Steam games onto some cheap DVDs I bought ages ago and stuck them in my new Vista lappy. Explorer went mental - couldn't kill it, couldn't restart it, couldn't even restart the laptop - ended up having to do a hard restart. Should be able to handle a dodgy DVD better than that.
And on the off chance Fire Wizard is actually Steve Ballmer, are Microsoft ever going to give us an equivalent of "kill -9" or "rm -f"? I find it so frustrating at work not being able to delete files because they're locked by a process, and not being able to kill that process.
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I love Task manager and Access Denied. I have full admin rights damn it why can't I kill a process? And don't start me on the cannot delete files stuff. Grr.
Why can't Microsoft do an Apple and build Windows 7 on a BSD core. Please?
As for bad DVDs and CD happens a lot here in XP and it still happens in Vista. Surely they could have at least fixed that?
As nice as it would be if it was integrated, I used Unlocker to do that - It adds the option to the right click menu for a file.
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You have to remember that any OS has to, unfortunately, work well for the stupidest users. In fact Vista and XP are fairly lenient with little effort made to become an admin user. One guy at uni deleted a bunch of sound drivers, and some other crap that made windows run like a dog because he was trying to make room to download more porn....seriously
He randomly went through the Windows folder deleting stuff that didn't seem to important, realtek, don't need that
Either way, any OS will have problems, and crashes, but you have to take into account how good the OS comparitively to what systems it can run on. Recommended requirements are one thing, you don't have to run Aero, infact lots don't, without it, it can run on a ridiculously cheap system so I can't see that as a real issue, especially when power wise anything from Apple costs a heck of a lot more than a similar spec PC can be had. But when you realise just how many drivers have to be made, how many different bits of hardware will run on Vista fine, its ridiculous, compared to a fairly closed Apple setup.
I mean, consider consoles, the argument is they are easier to program for, and extract the power out of because its a closed hardware design. OS is much MUCH narrower in scope than windows in hardware terms and software, to complain that Vista is worse, when you can get a faster Vista setup for cheaper because you aren't paying Apple prices, seems ludicrous to me. I never get crashes, an advanced user, within 12 seconds of hitting desktop can have user account control disabled, most advanced users will disable a LOT of things in any OS so again I can't see that as a downside.