Bikers Youtube thread
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Exactly, the main boggles how she got it completely wrong, I mean fair enough there are quite a few idiots who cant read the road markings daily that go in the left hand lane and go straight on but to be in that lane and then want to go around the roundabout without even looking is just plain madness!
All the time!
I've actually just done a little research into what mirrors he has on his Nuda as they'd look amazing on my Speed. They're Rizoma Elisse mirrors if anyone is interested (universal as well). Very expensive, but SO nice.
All the time!
I've actually just done a little research into what mirrors he has on his Nuda as they'd look amazing on my Speed. They're Rizoma Elisse mirrors if anyone is interested (universal as well). Very expensive, but SO nice.
Funny that, I was JUST looking at these. Best part of £120 each, then add another £15 for adapters
Funny that, I was JUST looking at these. Best part of £120 each, then add another £15 for adapters
Yeah, found them on HarleyCustom for £264 total
with adapters for my bike. I'm rather tempted right now though 
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Says free shipping for me? Makes it even more tempting
the other site I found them on seems like one of those that would take forever to deliver, then send you something that's been in their warehouse for 10 years and is damaged Can't find the 2nd adapter I need for my bike though, can only see BS711B on there
I watched that this morning, it was quite interesting. Surprising to hear how a Harley was really ahead of the game lol.
He seems to have this thing with vehicles being 'unrestored'. He's got plenty that have been restored but he always mentions if the only change has been using a feather duster and replacing the consumables (tyres, plugs etc)
He seems to have this thing with vehicles being 'unrestored'. He's got plenty that have been restored but he always mentions if the only change has been using a feather duster and replacing the consumables (tyres, plugs etc)
To a collector, original unrestored makes the thing in question significantly more valuable because it wears it's life story on it's sleeve. There's degrees of value when it comes to vehicles.
Resto-mod is usually the lowest value and doesn't usually return that much on the investment you might put into it. You would do this to a classic that is too far gone for a restoration (or hot/rat rod it). The only time I've seen resto-mods go for mad money is one off Boyd Codington cars. I can't remember it's name, but he built one that used one of his own chassis, with a Dodge Viper engine and then a Delahaye body on the chassis (the Delahaye probably made up the significant cost of the project). One off, hand made interior. That's the sort of stuff you have to do to make money on resto-mods. Also, having the Codington name helps.
This is the car in question. The "whatthehaye". Sold for half a million USD.
Then there's restoration. Which usually returns a decent chunk on expenditure for work done, but requires that parts are authentic new old stock / taken from a donor, or hand crafted replacements. If the car is particularly rare, the return on investment can be significant.
Then there's original unrestored. This is a gamble. You have to take the chance that the vehicle in question might appreciate as numbers dwindle. Or have bought a limited production run of a car in the first place as an investment. But that's a gamble on the vehicle marque, production numbers, and other factors. Also the vehicle in question needs to be rare. Have been a game changer (this is why Broughs and Black Shadows are such collectable motorcycles). An icon (Harley's define the "American outlaw" spirit. Say American outlaw and people imagine bikers. They see Harleys. They see the "Captain America" Panhead from "Easy Rider" or Marlon Brando climibing onto a Triumph in "The Wild One"). Have a history (raced by A / B /C or owned by X / Y / Z).
If you've ever seen the Barrett-Jackson or Bonham auctions you can see these degrees of value in effect when vehicles roll through and bidding starts. The state of the vehicle, it's rarity and it's history are what makes the difference between a vehicle selling for 100 to 500 thousand dollars, or 1 to 30 million dollars.
From what I remember, the most expensive car to go through B-J's auctions was a Shelby Cobra which sold for over 5 million USD. That was owned by Shelby himself and had quite a unique history to it. This is the car in question.
Bonhams is where cars go for REAL crazy prices. Usually they specialise in original unrestored. They've sold Ferraris in the past that have gone for over 20 or 30 million USD. Original unrestored Ferraris produced in low numbers and usually with a unique history (raced by A / B / C at tracks 1 / 2 / 3 and won X / Y / Z or owned by $famousactor / $famousactress). This is the worlds most expensive car. Unique racing history and completely original / unrestored.
I think Jay said he bought that Knucklehead 30 years ago. The amount of 1936 knuckleheads that have been chopped and bobbed in the US in the last 30 years, let alone the decades before that I'd hazard there aren't too many left. To have one that is original unrestored he's already onto a winner. '36 was the year the Knucklehead was introduced. So it's one of the early chassis numbers. This fully restored '36 EL Knucklehead went for $180k USD. But then Jay's '36 now has a history, of having been owned by Jay himself. The bike is iconic. But so is Jay (late night TV host and avid car / motorcycle collector history now attached to the vehicle). Who knows what his might sell for, but he's probably got even more expensive bikes in his collection.
Edit: Included link to Codington car and Shelby.
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I'd rather a restoration. Surely an original unrestored is just a restoration waiting to happen?
Things break and need replacing/fixing. That knucklehead surely won't be able to go much longer before a piston ring needs replacing? It's nearly 80 years old!
Things break and need replacing/fixing. That knucklehead surely won't be able to go much longer before a piston ring needs replacing? It's nearly 80 years old!
Depends for me. From a collectors point of view I can understand and see the value with an original unrestored. And yeah, technically, it is a restoration waiting to happen. But as a collection piece, that machine probably only gets warmed up / cooled down and at most double digit mileage a year to keep it from seizing up and keep things turning. A full on restoration is a long long way off. And in places like Cali, you don't have the weather eating away at the metal (which is why lots of yank muscle and VW air cooled stuff ends up imported into the UK and Europe from there).
The Knucklehead was cast iron. It's the motorcycle equivalent of those big old V8 iron blocks. So long as it's lubricated regularly, an iron block will probably out last most people (or has already done so). And piston rings are generally made from cast iron. And they most certainly would have been during those days. Cast iron withstands changes in heat and movement so much better than other metals even today. That's why they're still using old knuckles and panheads in choppers and bobbers today and GM V8 iron blocks in cars.
Sure, modern machines with aluminium blocks and all sorts of modern materials will run cooler and run higher horsepower, but they'll never last as long as an iron block with iron rings and certainly never put the same sort of mileage on the components without needing to be baby'd it's entire life or entirely rebuilt.
Edit: Here's a good article on why Ford is using an iron block in it's 2.7 litre V6. They won't even have to use cylinder liners with the block because of the type of iron they're using. Will be interesting to see how long these engines last. While on the reverse both BMW and Jaguar suffered from nikasil cylinder liner issues in their engines because of sulphur content in fuel at the time. With a big old iron block or iron liners, they wouldn't have had any problems. The downside to a lump of iron, is the weight.
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I made this especially for my bro (Craig321) who just got his Speed Triple R...
(this is probably one of the only times I'll ever be able to do this while he's breaking it in so I'm making the most of it!!!)
Added some ridiculously rad, hip music to it (audio didn't come out from the bike)
(this is probably one of the only times I'll ever be able to do this while he's breaking it in so I'm making the most of it!!!)
Added some ridiculously rad, hip music to it (audio didn't come out from the bike)
Yeah, found them on HarleyCustom for £264 total
rizoma make some beautiful things