Bin men on strike

Its average pay for a manual job of 48hrs or so.

Well, for a job that involves doing not a great deal for 48hrs a week anyway.


As I have said that pay is called living out of a bag, you need at least £20,000 a year in the UK. And you have done that kind of job?
 
As I have said that pay is called living out of a bag, you need at least £20,000 a year in the UK. And you have done that kind of job?

At least £20,000 to live. crap.

I earn 16,500 and take 1110 a month. Easily enough money to live. 425 on house and bills, 685 for rest (bus/car, food, going out, buying stuff or save/holiday)

Please explain why you need at least 20k to live in uk
 
As bad as it is not having your rubbish removed, not sure what i would do if i lost 6k off my wage

most of them only work half a day though they were over paid for what they did.

a lot of rounds were a few hours in the morning job done.

same as postmen used to be able to rush off home if they raced there round.
 
It's going to be privatised...

Privatising it will raise standards for the public, and surely ensure that all employees will be paid their correct market rate.

That being said I sympathise with being given a 5k pay cut, though surely as the private company takes over they will need extra capacity, hence there'll be vacancies for experienced bin men.

Seems logical that all will actually be alright. Thankfully my bin is still being emptied, though by whom I am not sure.



Yes, because privatising cleaning hospitals (for instance) really raised standards there, didn't it? And once upon a time, soon after Thatcher forced it on councils, almost all bin emptying was done by private contractors. Much of it is now back in-house because again it turned out that the contractors charged more to do a worse service.

When the services are privatised, the work is almost entirely done by the same staff: they just get TUPE'd across. Except TUPE only applies at the point of transfer, so two weeks later they all get a pay cut. The private company wants to maximise their profit, so things would have to be pretty desperate before they employed any extra staff.

Without knowing the details of the new contracts, it's difficult to comment, but I would assume that in usual management fashion the bin-men are being set targets which are at least partly out of their control - and then being penalised for missing them.


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so they are on job and finish then arknor. where you do your round and go home.
on the flip side if your wagon breaks down and your still there at 1800 working you will still only get the same money. so no over time.

just out of intrest do you work there or you taking a guess at what hours and rounds they work ?
 
I have done, on numerous occasions when I have had to sit behind their lorries blocking the the road in both directions because they are too ****** idle to pull in behind a parked car.

They tend not to say or do anything, just sit there breathing through their mouths.
Are they supposed to be hard or something?

:rolleyes:
 
Stupid council/agency/contractor is stupid.

I'm not particularly well versed on this situation, but surely the binmen and their families are going to find it hard to survive on their newly cropped wage? Obviously many have a secondary income, but to lose £6k/year will certainly hit some hard until (if) the 'bonus' comes. Is the council planning on paying the bonus annually/monthly/other?

If someone's not pulling their weight, just give them the heave-ho if they don't shape up for crying out loud, not tar everyone with the same brush. Binmen are essential, and many of them work their arses off so we don't live in filth.
 
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I can't really complain about the collection services in Bromley borough.
They are run by Onyx and do an 'ok' job on my road, though neighbouring roads have varying levels of success, and vandalism to their property. (walls knocked down by mis-thrown bins, fences broken when being leaned upon)

My only gripe is that they don't provide wheelie bins because "They produce 3% more waste" than two of their non-wheelie standard bins.
The amount of times I almost put my back out shifting the old bins, while almost spilling the contents over the ground was NOT worth the small cost of buying my own wheelie bin. Considering the amount of elderly people that live in the borough, I would have thought it made sense.
 
what you live in a cardboard box?
16k you can live on, if you are in shared accommodation.

Flat with 2 other people. £325 a month including council tax, leccy and water.

Doesnt neally everyone live in shared accommodation? Either in parents house, partner or mates? Not many people live on their own
 
what you live in a cardboard box?
16k you can live on, if you are in shared accommodation.

Depends where you live. In some horrible busy overpriced city, london, birmingham, manchester, places like that, you need probably around 20k.
In smaller places, where i live, swindon which is a big town, 16k a year is more than doable in rented acommodation on your own, and you could still slot a car into that even if you didn't go out much.
You can rent a 2 bed house for about £500 including utilities round here.
 
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