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Soldato
It's worth considering when I'm chosing between a 5080 and 5090. I could literally upgrade two of my speakers, with stands and get a 5080 and have money left over for games lol.
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That’s generally why I struggle. Second most powerful for over half the cost. As long as I can pull over 60fps at 4K with all the bells and whistles I’m happy, and I can do that in all the games I’m playing. Maybe not FS2024, but it doesn’t matter there.
Soldato
Yeah it's easy to get lost in the hype... +30% better etc but the price difference is real. I'm going to consider all options, at the reveal.
That's fighting talk, that's 2 weeks vs 2 years of gaming joy you'd get from the 5090, plus the 5090 can't give you methanol poisoning
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Soldato
I think you'd get a very comparable experience with a lesser GPU though.
Soldato
But that lesser GPU would be a week in Thailand and you're back to the same problem, no?
True, you could get a 5080 and spend a week in SEA and get methanol poisoning
Soldato
On the opposite side after your two weeks in Thailand you walk away with nothing but maybe an STD. With a 5090 it will hold almost all of its value. So you essentially still have that money (I made +£100 profit with my 4090).
Have we considered picking up a 5090 in Thailand and skipping 20% VAT?
Have we considered picking up a 5090 in Thailand and skipping 20% VAT?
While I agree the comparison with Thailand is ridiculous, there is No way is a 5090 'holding all of its value' outside of very specific circumstances and especially after the 6th generation is released.
Soldato
My 4090 held 107% of its value, sold last month! Even a small loss is inconsequential over two years. As long as you know the right time to sell you'll get a good deal IMO, especially with the more desirable cards.
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Forgetting the holiday comparison (it was a wholesome experience thank you very much, but I regret it for other reasons), many of us bought great GPUs for a mere fraction of the cost back in the day. £600 for something like a 980ti/1080ti and they lasted a long time. Really depends on the performance folks want, even going mid-tier got top level performance. Why buy a Titan when a 970 trades blows or a 1070 coming close to a 980ti. Forgetting the fact that top cards were more affordable than today's mid-tier, it used to be the case that a few hundred quid was enough to get great flag-ship matching performance every 2 years.
Admittedly this is pointless nostalgia of better times, but we should have been getting 4090 perf for a third of the cost next gen. Instead, we're speculating that the 'half-price' 80 tier is a bargain at £1k, when we're not even sure if it will be as good as a 4090 (it sure is getting less VRAM than 4090).
The point is spending 4 figures on 1 PC part isn't worth it for most folks, but Nvidias clever strategy is fooling folks into thinking it is. And worse, that it's worth doing so every time.
I'll be on the lookout for something £500 and below. If there's nothing decent... hey not like I play games much anyway. I just enjoy the PC building hobby (at least before corporate greed ruins it).
Admittedly this is pointless nostalgia of better times, but we should have been getting 4090 perf for a third of the cost next gen. Instead, we're speculating that the 'half-price' 80 tier is a bargain at £1k, when we're not even sure if it will be as good as a 4090 (it sure is getting less VRAM than 4090).
The point is spending 4 figures on 1 PC part isn't worth it for most folks, but Nvidias clever strategy is fooling folks into thinking it is. And worse, that it's worth doing so every time.
I'll be on the lookout for something £500 and below. If there's nothing decent... hey not like I play games much anyway. I just enjoy the PC building hobby (at least before corporate greed ruins it).
Soldato
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For current prices AMD is having like a 2% margin. The question will be, how much, realistically, prices could go down? The economy is not what it used to be and newer processes are not cheap (I think for 4xxx what nVIDIA did was more expensive than AMD's node?).
Soldato
Yeah, for pretty much 20 years the economy didn't change at all so prices remained nice and low. But now all of a sudden "economy" happened and we have to pay thousands. Damn that economy.
maybe thats your specific experience but its not generally true you will loose some value. You only need to look at retail prices and prices they sell on certain auction site. But I will agree they do hold their prices quite good and selling at correct time can minimise your loss. I sold my brand new 4090 few months ago and lost almost £350.
Soldato
I think we have to accept part of the blame as enthusiasts. Do we really need this level of performance, would turning down a setting hurt that much etc?
I had a 4090 the last two years. Hardly ever used DLSS (Cyberpunk, Alan Wake II spring to mind). Had I got a 4080 and used DLSS I wonder how similar a experience I would have had.
I had a 4090 the last two years. Hardly ever used DLSS (Cyberpunk, Alan Wake II spring to mind). Had I got a 4080 and used DLSS I wonder how similar a experience I would have had.
Are you now sitting at home thinking what am going to do everyday now I spent my 5090 money in only two weeks
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its because over the last 10 years everyone has access to easy low interest credit, go online pay in monthly payment are abundant, its so easy to do with very weak eligibility checks, you can not work and get 3-4 credit cards just like that. This easy access to credit boosts consumerism and I am very sure its by design. Everyone is in perpetual debt with very little savings.
Soldato
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It was cheaper to get improvements, too. It isn't anymore. Again, if that's not the case, why is AMD only at 2% margin?
At 4k? It would have helped with RT/PT. For raster, perhaps not.
Two whole years of luxury… of not using DLSS and barely seeing any difference
… but it’s never something you had to consider so it was worth it!!!
