NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

[TNA]

Best get a new mobo, PSU, case too for the heat that will be generated @Nexus18 @TNA lol

Why, what have I missed? My PSU is 1000W. Though I have had it fir maybe a decade now

I won't be going 5090 so heat will be fine. Probably 5070 or something around that range. All depends on price and what performance that buys you.

I will just be a bitter customer.

Understandable. Going from having the top gpu and to old tech is not easy

 

[TNA]

Here is the thing though: I suspect these performance numbers are from comparing the old GPU which had one die to the new GPU with two dies and the new die has 25% more cores than the old dies. So when you attribute how much of the performance gain is from the the extra cores, it's almost all of it - Blackwell doesn't seem like it has big IPC or clock improvements, the extra performance is from the extra die and cores, and the gaming GPUs won't get the extra die and cores I'm not sure about because B100/B200 is right at the reticule limit, I.e it's expensive as hell to build

Based on this, I suspect most of Blackwell gaming GPU performance gains would come from AI stuff like new software or improvements in existing AI functions, raster performance improvements may be minimal guys

What's that? You plan on keeping your 4090 and not upgrading?

 

[Grim5]

What's that? You plan on keeping you 4090 and not upgrading?

I didn't say that lmao, I'm just looking objectively at the product. When it comes to buying said product I may not be objective


But technically the 4090 is still plenty overkill for most games and I don't have any very high refresh screens, so unless we get significantly more ray traced games, the 4090 will continue to be overkill as it is and 4090 owners may not need to upgrade

 

[TNA]

I didn't say that lmao, I'm just looking objectively at the product. When it comes to buying said product I may not be objective


But technically the 4090 is still plenty overkill for most games and I don't have any very high refresh screens, so unless we get significantly more ray traced games, the 4090 will continue to be overkill as it is and 4090 owners may not need to upgrade

Haha. Yeah, I would be surprised if you did not buy one. At this point you even have to, as people will start saying things like couldn't afford to smash your 4090 with a hammer this time round etc etc

 

[Dicehunter]

I didn't say that lmao, I'm just looking objectively at the product. When it comes to buying said product I may not be objective


But technically the 4090 is still plenty overkill for most games and I don't have any very high refresh screens, so unless we get significantly more ray traced games, the 4090 will continue to be overkill as it is and 4090 owners may not need to upgrade

Unless you worship at the altar of RT, Even a last gen AMD 6000 series can get excellent FPS.

 

[TNA]

Unless you worship at the altar of RT,

@mrk and @Nexus18 come to mind straight away

 

[AMDPower]

I know and agree with most sentiments here, but I would die for one of these new GPU because I do work AI stuff and find myself limited by RAM more than anything else, brute GPU power matters too, but ram is my biggest factor. I was thinking of ditching my 4090 for two 3090 with nv-link which they conveniently removed from both their consumer and workstation cards this round. Nvidia really did the dirty on us here. I would die for 192GB memory, wonder what the price is? $100,000-$150,000..

by the looks of it, the 5090 might only be 25-30% faster than 4090 with most performance coming from larger die. Might not even be worth upgrading IF that's were the performance falls. I doubt we will see 3090 to 4090 type performance increase this round. if 5090 has more memory that might tempt me.

 

[scubes]

Boring fell asleep though it lol

 

[JediFragger]

and 4090 owners may not need to upgrade

WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT!!!!

 

[JediFragger]

@mrk and @Nexus18 come to mind straight away

This, so much this

 

[Quartz]

My niece has started gaming. If Nvidia don’t price the 5090 too steeply (hah!) then my old 4090 might make a fine birthday / Christmas present…

 

[GhostDog1981]

My niece has started gaming. If Nvidia don’t price the 5090 too steeply (hah!) then my old 4090 might make a fine birthday / Christmas present…

You are too nice an uncle! 4090 is an amazing present.

 

[Ayahuasca]

My niece has started gaming. If Nvidia don’t price the 5090 too steeply (hah!) then my old 4090 might make a fine birthday / Christmas present…

That’ll teach her.

 

[scubes]

Bit disappointed that they didn't show any gaming gpus.. yawn...

 

[Dirk Diggler]

old 4090

 

[hobib_ali]

Jensen Huang announces we need bigger GPU's

so does this mean bigger in size? coz the 4080/90 is massive already

Is Blackwell for the 50 series so the 5080 5090 or is this for non consumer Quadro cards?

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[Grim5]

Kope's claims for GB202, which would be used for a full fat rtx5090/ti

* Same TSMC 4NP as data centre cards. Details about this node is not public, don't know how much density or performance gain over last time's standard 4nm

* 12 GPC units per SM, same as Lovelace

* 8 TPC per SM vs 6 for Lovelace

* Significantly Increased L1 cache for SM throughput

* Total SM 192: 24,567 Cuda cores vs 16,384 cores on RTX4090


^^ Specs are for a full size GB202 die, which may not be the full size used in an RTX5090 due to cost, size and power.

 

[hobib_ali]

I'm really hoping Intel can deliver a good GPU, The market needs performance competition as the pricing from both AMD and Nvidia is out of control.

pricing for everything is out of control now

pint of milk was 45p now its like 80p
my car insurance was around 300 for the past decade, suddenly this year its upped to 600, no crashes on my end, same thing with energy, dont forget council tax has gone up massively
haha not to be worried about GPU prices

 

[TNA]

Kope's claims for GB202, which would be used for a full fat rtx5090/ti

* Same TSMC 4NP as data centre cards. Details about this node is not public, don't know how much density or performance gain over last time's standard 4nm

* 12 GPC units per SM, same as Lovelace

* 8 TPC per SM vs 6 for Lovelace

* Significantly Increased L1 cache for SM throughput

* Total SM 192: 24,567 Cuda cores vs 16,384 cores on RTX4090

Going to be better than 25% or whatever you said earlier. Plus it will probably have some feature locked behind it that will make you want to buy it

 

[Dicehunter]

pricing for everything is out of control now

pint of milk was 45p now its like 80p
my car insurance was around 300 for the past decade, suddenly this year its upped to 600, no crashes on my end, same thing with energy, dont forget council tax has gone up massively
haha not to be worried about GPU prices

Good points, My rent went up £300, No actual reason other than greed as the landlord outright owns the entire property and paid the mortgage off decades ago. Electricity went from £40 per month to £90 but my usage went down. I used to have a fair bit of disposable income to live a bit more freely but it's pretty much all gone now.