blitz supra 'ring record attempt
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Hi there
Was that done in 1998 as the video suggest? Is the lap time 7:49?
How much did it cost them to build that car?
Just seems to me if the car cost over 100k and its clearly got huge power and been completely stripped and rebuilt. Now maybe 8-9 years ago when that video was done that was impressive.
But too me you can buy an M3 CSL or a Corvette Z06 for less money and they both lap the ring quicker. Also I doubt that Supra is much use on the road wheras a Z06 and CSL can be used daily.
Unless I have made a mistake somewhere watching the video I am not really that impressed.
As mentioned already here Slackworths BMW 130i can lap the ring in just over 8 mins and they cost sub 20k.
Was that done in 1998 as the video suggest? Is the lap time 7:49?
How much did it cost them to build that car?
Just seems to me if the car cost over 100k and its clearly got huge power and been completely stripped and rebuilt. Now maybe 8-9 years ago when that video was done that was impressive.
But too me you can buy an M3 CSL or a Corvette Z06 for less money and they both lap the ring quicker. Also I doubt that Supra is much use on the road wheras a Z06 and CSL can be used daily.
Unless I have made a mistake somewhere watching the video I am not really that impressed.
As mentioned already here Slackworths BMW 130i can lap the ring in just over 8 mins and they cost sub 20k.
Matt82 said:
Hi there
Sorry but in Slackworths thread there is a guy who owns an 130i M Sport. His only modification is an LSD and there was traffic on the track. With traffic he did the ring in 8:24 and he reckons with no traffic 8:10 is possible and I believe it.
Thats from a car you can go and buy for 18k, add 2k for the LSD in case it really does help, still only 20k. Spend the same money on the 130i as that Supra got and it would no doubt spank that Supra.
Here is the video that Elliot posted in Slackworths thread:-
8m24 WITH traffic He reckons 8m10 without the holdups. The car is standard except for the LSD, though he does race there.
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The Supra and the addon technoligy on it are almost 10 years old, of course it won't seem that impressive now
Technoligy moves the goalposts very quickly and its not like the Supra is a new car either.
Technoligy moves the goalposts very quickly and its not like the Supra is a new car either.
Stonedofmoo said:
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I understand your point, but even at that time there was cars lapping quicker.
I don't get why people might throw 100k at a car to try and make it go round a track nearly as quick as say a Ferrari or Porsche. By the time you have spent that money modding what was a cheap mass production car you could have purchased the Porsche or Ferrari and had lots of change.
Also technology is not a huge factor, the Corvette Z06 still uses leaf springs yet it can do the ring in close to 7:30 out the factory. It might be a new car but its design is nothing ground breaking, just Corvette sticking with what they know works.
Now a car like the Veyron is a technology leap and as such what has it done the ring in?
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I couldn't be bothered to watch the whole video (having trouble with the commentators accent), but I take it the 7m49s is for the full Nordschleife - rather than the shorter BTG measurement.
[edit] Matt82 - Andres 8.24 (with traffic) was BTG, not full.
[edit] Matt82 - Andres 8.24 (with traffic) was BTG, not full.
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That's a nice and tidy lap, i like that
The traffic wasn't on any of the fast sections, so no traffic, might get 8.10.
The traffic wasn't on any of the fast sections, so no traffic, might get 8.10.
Gibbo said:
BTG is Bridge To Gantry, basically you start the clock as you pass under the bridge at the start of the lap, and stop it as you go under the gantry at the end. Reason for this is on public days you join the track after the start finish and leave before it at the end of the lap
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Approx ~30 seconds extra onto a btg time for the full lap..
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Gibbo said:
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Manufacturers quote full laps (like the CSL 7m50s). Only us public day plebs use BTG because we can't do proper full laps
Gibbo said:Hi there
I understand your point, but even at that time there was cars lapping quicker.
I don't get why people might throw 100k at a car to try and make it go round a track nearly as quick as say a Ferrari or Porsche. By the time you have spent that money modding what was a cheap mass production car you could have purchased the Porsche or Ferrari and had lots of change.
Also technology is not a huge factor, the Corvette Z06 still uses leaf springs yet it can do the ring in close to 7:30 out the factory. It might be a new car but its design is nothing ground breaking, just Corvette sticking with what they know works.
Now a car like the Veyron is a technology leap and as such what has it done the ring in?
So a Z06 is as fast as a Carrera GT driven by Walther Rohrl??
There was a discussion on one of the motoring forums a while back about the Z06 time (could have been Pistonheads but cannot be sure) and it seems that GM had hired the track for the complete day and spent it testing and replacing components to get the fastest time possible, so hardly production standard. There were also strong rumours that the car was a test mule for a super Z06 and as such had a supercharger.
housemaster said:
Probably on account of them having to nerf them slightly to please the vegetarian sandal-wearing hippy bunch. The production Z06 avoids the Gas Guzzler tax, so I assume they did the same gearbox trickery that they used on the standard C6. That'd make it slower.