Blu Ray & HD DVD - PAL & NTSC no longer a consideration ?

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With the new Blu Ray & HD DVD players are they no longer either PAL or NTSC ?

As I understand it they will play, regardless of where its bought, on any HD Ready TV with an HDMI input ?

I ask as I'm moving back to Australia at the end of the year and want to get a Blu Ray / HDDVD Combo player when I'm in America (yes I know I will have to get a transformer due to the voltage differences).

Cheers
 
HDTV in the US displays at either 60 or 30 fields a second, in Europe (50Hz) it’s 50 or 25 fields, I would imagine most modern HDTV set's will cope with a 50/60Hz signal but I guess if they don't they you could get judder.

e.g. if your HDTV was built specifically for the European market and can't handle a 60Hz signal!
 
ok well that might have changed my plans !!

I would hope that a reasonably priced combo player would be available in the UK within the next 6 months ?? surely :confused:
 
Check you panel, I would imagine most will support 50/60Hz, my DLP TV actually prefers a 720p 60Hz signal and I get much less overscan from my HCPC!

Jaap74 said:
I would hope that a reasonably priced combo player would be available in the UK within the next 6 months ?? surely :confused:
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This is the UK, I wouldn't hold your breath!

HEADRAT
 
Jaap74 said:
it's a Samsung 32".... manual says it supports :

1360 x 768
from 47.712 kHz to 60.015 kHz.............

so looks alright then ?
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Thats the horizontal scan, you need the vertical one!

sid
 
All TVs badged "HD Ready" will take 50Hz and 60Hz signals.

1080p on Blu-ray and HD-DVD is 24fps. What the player does with that, i don't know. I'd assume it displays at 60 fps, and shows some frames 3 times, and others twice.
 
Bigpops said:
All TVs badged "HD Ready" will take 50Hz and 60Hz signals.

1080p on Blu-ray and HD-DVD is 24fps. What the player does with that, i don't know. I'd assume it displays at 60 fps, and shows some frames 3 times, and others twice.
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Hope not 3:2 pulldown looks horrible imho, introduces tons of visible artifacts. I still prefer to watch movies in PAL mode, IE 24fps played back at 25fps, causes the average movies to be reduced in duration by about 2-3 minutes, but apart from that its free from visible artifacts. Unless our TV's can sync up at 48hz, for perfect replay.
 
Jaap74 said:
With the new Blu Ray & HD DVD players are they no longer either PAL or NTSC ?

As I understand it they will play, regardless of where its bought, on any HD Ready TV with an HDMI input ?

I ask as I'm moving back to Australia at the end of the year and want to get a Blu Ray / HDDVD Combo player when I'm in America (yes I know I will have to get a transformer due to the voltage differences).

Cheers
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Apart for PAL based TV programmes, ALL HD-DVDs / Blu-Ray will be outputted at 60Hz. All of the film discs contain the film at 1080p/24fps (24Hz), and the HD-DVD / Blu-Ray player will output this at either 720p/60Hz, 1080i/60Hz or 1080p/60Hz.

So the quick answer to your question is basically HD-DVD / BR output 60Hz 99% of the time.

Some players can output 1080p/24Hz, but sadly very few LCDs/Plasmas/Projectors can accept the signal :(
 
Bigpops said:
All TVs badged "HD Ready" will take 50Hz and 60Hz signals.

1080p on Blu-ray and HD-DVD is 24fps. What the player does with that, i don't know. I'd assume it displays at 60 fps, and shows some frames 3 times, and others twice.
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Some the lastest TV 's has support for 1080p/24hz playback..


Supported res/refresh rate over HDMI on my pioneer plasma

1920*1080i@50Hz
720*576p@50Hz
1280*720p@50Hz
720(1440)*576i@50Hz
1920*[email protected]/60Hz
720*[email protected]/60Hz
1280*[email protected]/60Hz
720(1440)*[email protected]/60Hz
1920*1080p@24Hz
 
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Corasik said:
Hope not 3:2 pulldown looks horrible imho, introduces tons of visible artifacts. I still prefer to watch movies in PAL mode, IE 24fps played back at 25fps, causes the average movies to be reduced in duration by about 2-3 minutes, but apart from that its free from visible artifacts. Unless our TV's can sync up at 48hz, for perfect replay.
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3:2 pulldown is elliminated when your using progressive scan.

Considering were talking about HDDVD / BLURAY its unlikely anyone would be using an interlaced mode.

The PAL speed up caused by the 50hz process still causes the 4% speed increase in the film and pitch increase in all music and audio in the film hence why 60hz or 24hz are preferable to anything related to PAL
 
vila said:
The PAL speed up caused by the 50hz process still causes the 4% speed increase in the film and pitch increase in all music and audio in the film hence why 60hz or 24hz are preferable to anything related to PAL
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:eek:

I guess you never tryed to play a PAL movie at 60hz..
 
chaparral said:
Some the lastest TV 's has support for 1080p/24hz playback..


Supported res/refresh rate over HDMI on my pioneer plasma

1920*1080i@50Hz
720*576p@50Hz
1280*720p@50Hz
720(1440)*576i@50Hz
1920*[email protected]/60Hz
720*[email protected]/60Hz
1280*[email protected]/60Hz
720(1440)*[email protected]/60Hz
1920*1080p@24Hz
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Your plasma will accept that as an input, but does it play it at 720p /24Hz? Your panel will have to downscale that's for sure, but if it was my guess it would also perform 3:2 pulldown to 60Hz.

Accepting 1080p 24Hz as an input, and displaying it is a big difference :D
 
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