Blu Ray & HD DVD - PAL & NTSC no longer a consideration ?

[Jaap74]

With the new Blu Ray & HD DVD players are they no longer either PAL or NTSC ?

As I understand it they will play, regardless of where its bought, on any HD Ready TV with an HDMI input ?

I ask as I'm moving back to Australia at the end of the year and want to get a Blu Ray / HDDVD Combo player when I'm in America (yes I know I will have to get a transformer due to the voltage differences).

Cheers

 

[HEADRAT]

The European version of 720p, 1080i, 1080p is 50Hz where as in the U.S. it's 60Hz

HEADRAT

 

[Jaap74]

So if I bought the player in the USA I would have to adjust the refresh rate on my LCD screen ? Is that possible ?

 

[HEADRAT]

HDTV in the US displays at either 60 or 30 fields a second, in Europe (50Hz) it’s 50 or 25 fields, I would imagine most modern HDTV set's will cope with a 50/60Hz signal but I guess if they don't they you could get judder.

e.g. if your HDTV was built specifically for the European market and can't handle a 60Hz signal!

 

[Jaap74]

ok well that might have changed my plans !!

I would hope that a reasonably priced combo player would be available in the UK within the next 6 months ?? surely

 

[HEADRAT]

Check you panel, I would imagine most will support 50/60Hz, my DLP TV actually prefers a 720p 60Hz signal and I get much less overscan from my HCPC!

I would hope that a reasonably priced combo player would be available in the UK within the next 6 months ?? surely

This is the UK, I wouldn't hold your breath!

HEADRAT

 

[Jaap74]

it's a Samsung 32".... manual says it supports :

1360 x 768
from 47.712 kHz to 60.015 kHz.............

so looks alright then ?

 

[sid]

it's a Samsung 32".... manual says it supports :

1360 x 768
from 47.712 kHz to 60.015 kHz.............

so looks alright then ?

Thats the horizontal scan, you need the vertical one!

sid

 

[Jaap74]

oh yeah, you're right...

 

[Bigpops]

All TVs badged "HD Ready" will take 50Hz and 60Hz signals.

1080p on Blu-ray and HD-DVD is 24fps. What the player does with that, i don't know. I'd assume it displays at 60 fps, and shows some frames 3 times, and others twice.

 

[Corasik]

All TVs badged "HD Ready" will take 50Hz and 60Hz signals.

1080p on Blu-ray and HD-DVD is 24fps. What the player does with that, i don't know. I'd assume it displays at 60 fps, and shows some frames 3 times, and others twice.

Hope not 3:2 pulldown looks horrible imho, introduces tons of visible artifacts. I still prefer to watch movies in PAL mode, IE 24fps played back at 25fps, causes the average movies to be reduced in duration by about 2-3 minutes, but apart from that its free from visible artifacts. Unless our TV's can sync up at 48hz, for perfect replay.

 

[Raider]

With the new Blu Ray & HD DVD players are they no longer either PAL or NTSC ?

As I understand it they will play, regardless of where its bought, on any HD Ready TV with an HDMI input ?

I ask as I'm moving back to Australia at the end of the year and want to get a Blu Ray / HDDVD Combo player when I'm in America (yes I know I will have to get a transformer due to the voltage differences).

Cheers

Apart for PAL based TV programmes, ALL HD-DVDs / Blu-Ray will be outputted at 60Hz. All of the film discs contain the film at 1080p/24fps (24Hz), and the HD-DVD / Blu-Ray player will output this at either 720p/60Hz, 1080i/60Hz or 1080p/60Hz.

So the quick answer to your question is basically HD-DVD / BR output 60Hz 99% of the time.

Some players can output 1080p/24Hz, but sadly very few LCDs/Plasmas/Projectors can accept the signal

 

[chaparral]

All TVs badged "HD Ready" will take 50Hz and 60Hz signals.

1080p on Blu-ray and HD-DVD is 24fps. What the player does with that, i don't know. I'd assume it displays at 60 fps, and shows some frames 3 times, and others twice.

Some the lastest TV 's has support for 1080p/24hz playback..


Supported res/refresh rate over HDMI on my pioneer plasma

1920*1080i@50Hz
720*576p@50Hz
1280*720p@50Hz
720(1440)*576i@50Hz
1920*[email protected]/60Hz
720*[email protected]/60Hz
1280*[email protected]/60Hz
720(1440)*[email protected]/60Hz
1920*1080p@24Hz

 

[vila]

Hope not 3:2 pulldown looks horrible imho, introduces tons of visible artifacts. I still prefer to watch movies in PAL mode, IE 24fps played back at 25fps, causes the average movies to be reduced in duration by about 2-3 minutes, but apart from that its free from visible artifacts. Unless our TV's can sync up at 48hz, for perfect replay.

3:2 pulldown is elliminated when your using progressive scan.

Considering were talking about HDDVD / BLURAY its unlikely anyone would be using an interlaced mode.

The PAL speed up caused by the 50hz process still causes the 4% speed increase in the film and pitch increase in all music and audio in the film hence why 60hz or 24hz are preferable to anything related to PAL

 

[chaparral]

The PAL speed up caused by the 50hz process still causes the 4% speed increase in the film and pitch increase in all music and audio in the film hence why 60hz or 24hz are preferable to anything related to PAL

I guess you never tryed to play a PAL movie at 60hz..

 

[Raider]

Some the lastest TV 's has support for 1080p/24hz playback..


Supported res/refresh rate over HDMI on my pioneer plasma

1920*1080i@50Hz
720*576p@50Hz
1280*720p@50Hz
720(1440)*576i@50Hz
1920*[email protected]/60Hz
720*[email protected]/60Hz
1280*[email protected]/60Hz
720(1440)*[email protected]/60Hz
1920*1080p@24Hz

Your plasma will accept that as an input, but does it play it at 720p /24Hz? Your panel will have to downscale that's for sure, but if it was my guess it would also perform 3:2 pulldown to 60Hz.

Accepting 1080p 24Hz as an input, and displaying it is a big difference

 

[Jaap74]

looks like I may better off buying a Playstation 3 and a HD DVD player over here rather than the states......