Bodybuilding diet and working life?

I'd choose a shake over a protein bar - keep away from protein bars, waste of money and full of sugar.

You can make a fairly nutritious shake if you add decent ingredients - as Morba said, if all else fails a shake is an alternative. However, I'd fight for your right to eat.

Not all are full of sugar.
 
I think you're legally entitled to a break away from your desk every hour or something as part of Health and Safety. Also, it really narks me how much time the smokers spend away from their desks killing themselves, which is deemed just fine! Try to be healthy, and oh no you don't sunshine...:mad:
 
Also, it really narks me how much time the smokers spend away from their desks killing themselves, which is deemed just fine! Try to be healthy, and oh no you don't sunshine...:mad:

Really? In our place you have to clock out (flexi) if you want to smoke (and go outside, even if it's raining) but eating at your desk is absolutely fine :)
 
I dont know many places that let smokers have time outside of normal break allowance a day these days.
Also break away from desk every hour? That's for people who look at screens all day and it's something like 10 mins for each 4 hours.
 
Good for you, but such a diet appeals to some people only.
I'm not going to preach about catabolism and the like I'll just give my personal example.

As a 16 stone 6ft 2f fairly active person on a lean bulk I need around 3500-4000 calories a day. If you think it is possible and ok to eat that in one go every day, then you are very wrong.

This fasting might work for someone looking to lose weight who does not care about loosing a bit of muscle as well. If you're a 10 stone chap that wants to lose the flab around his waist I suppose it's possible to eat your 1500 calories in one meal, although not advisable imho. But for the heavier individuals or just someone who wants to gain muscle I'm sorry but such a diet is absolute crap.

There is an optimum amount of protein which the body can synthesize, I am pretty confident when saying that my body won't do a perfect job with 200grams in one go.

I'm no scientist and I appreciate this is just your opinion but I'm personally sick and tired of being told you have to eat six well balanced meals a day. It's nonsense.

The only proven benefit, let's be honest, is that it can help some people avoid overeating.

Most natural bodybuilders years ago never ate six times a day either, so how did they do it?

For me it's a complete and utter fad.

As for the diet you're criticising. Fair enough if that's how you feel but as someone who isn't even on the diet and has took the time to look at some of the client transformations (ones that include heavy guys) on leangains.com I would say the diet can't be complete crap if it's rendering these kinds of results for people.
 
Most natural bodybuilders years ago never ate six times a day either, so how did they do it?

For me it's a complete and utter fad.

As for the diet you're criticising. Fair enough if that's how you feel but as someone who isn't even on the diet and has took the time to look at some of the client transformations (ones that include heavy guys) on leangains.com I would say the diet can't be complete crap if it's rendering these kinds of results for people.

Most natural bodybilders didn't look like anything interesting many years ago, from the age of Arnold until Jay Cutler small meals have been the standard. (fair enough, not particulary natural lol)

I'm not saying this might not work for someone who just wants to lose fat, and yes if you haven't trained before and start going seriously + this diet then sure it works.
But I'd like to see someone actually putting some decent amount of lean quality mass in time by using just this diet, I doubt I will.
I don't think any sane person should 3000+ calories in one meal on a daily basis, no matter what some wannabe internet guru tells him.
 
its been shown a few times recently in many studies that 3 meals is enough if done right.
1 meal a day, eating thousands of kcals seems odd but i bet the body adjusts eventually!
 
One meal?!

Is that what he's saying to do? I never read that.

I thought it was approx. three meals but in a shorter time frame than the breakfast - 8am, lunch - 3pm, dinner - 6pm for example. So instead you fast until sometime after 1pm and then eat your daily calories until you go to bed - however you wish to do it.

That's what the website is promoting. What you've just said is far more extreme that the real philisophy of the website.
 
the bloke they are on about is saying that he has all his food in the evening post workout. thats gonna be one long meal, if you take a small break it might be classed as 2! but its as good as eating all your kcals (in excess to gain) in a very short period of time.
 
Ooo, sorry. I thought this was in reference to the website.

I'd personally, (now I've realised) not try to fit all the calories into one meal I must admit.
 
. So instead you fast until sometime after 1pm and then eat your daily calories until you go to bed - however you wish to do it.

Oh, this is nothing new tbh, elongating the time between meals (taking advantage of sleep) has been going on for a while :P
 
Ooo, sorry. I thought this was in reference to the website.

I'd personally, (now I've realised) not try to fit all the calories into one meal I must admit.

well yeah, he is mentioning leangains in the same post. not been on that site though to have more of a look
 
its been shown a few times recently in many studies that 3 meals is enough if done right.
1 meal a day, eating thousands of kcals seems odd but i bet the body adjusts eventually!

Your body adapts, but your body also needs fuel throughout the day, so why tax it? Keep yourself in an optimum state.

I agree that eating on the dot every 3 hours is not necessary, but having several smaller meals a day in general, helps to minimise the big swings in the metabolic cycle - they still exist but just on a smaller scale.
 
I now eat all my food in the evening and it's one of the best things I've ever done. I enjoy food so much more, I'm fired up all day and don't need to worry about carrying protein snacks with me.

I don't know what the author of the site was saying, I was referring to this fellow poster here.
 
I fail to believe eating one massive meal and overdosing on calories is as good / better than maintaining throughout the day with smaller more frequent meals. Essentially fasting all day for muscle growth is a pretty alien concept... and not one I've ever seen used.

Check out any competitive bodybuilder, pro or not and you'll find they'll utilize multiple meals throughout the day.

I eat every 2 1/2 - 3 hours generally and don't find it a hassle. Also because my meals are the same everyday putting on or losing weight is incredibly simple.
 
You've taken that out of it's real context. I was complaining about how you get told by nutritional gurus that you MUST eat at least six meals per day.

It's nonsense. The benefits of such meal planning has never proved to be that much more beneficial.

As I acknowledged, I can imagine it must definitely stop proper hunger setting in but apart from that? I can't see it.

The whole, "keep your body loaded with protein over the entire day" is still something to me which is hardly conclusive. It may well give you a bit extra for recovery but I can't see it doing mega wonders.

If someone wants to blind me with science fire ahead but I'm not going to be persuaded by a cocky line of, "well all these guys have done it..so they must be right!"

We'll all heard that sort of thing before..
 
It's not about keeping your body filled with protein, for most people it's the easiest way to manage the peaks and troughs that are experienced with less meals a day.
 
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