Boiler/Cylinder/Filter Question

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Another day, another question :).

We've had a few heating engineers round, and a quote in this morning. After picking myself up off the floor, they've recommended a Vaillant Eco-Tec 832, a 22mm Adey magnaclean, and a Joule Cyclone 200L unvented cylinder. Motorised TVRs all round, and a radiator for each room (obviously). This is for a 5 bed with 3 showers.

Just after some general thoughts on if this will be good enough really, the boiler looks ok to me, but we had a Valliant combi in our old house and I wasn't that impressed to be honest - I'm going to assume that what he's recommended will fit the bill and I should probably look closer at the warranty?

The filter I know nothing about but the water here is awful so anything to help with that is good in my book - just wondering if anyone knows the Adey range and if they are any good.
 
I recently replaced our boiler and it was a close call between a Vaillant and an Ideal.
The thing that swung it for me was I know someone at Ideal and got a good price.
The Vaillant system boiler will have less components than a combi and hence less to go wrong.
I researched the filters as most manufacturers warranties require a filter to be installed.
I picked the Adey as it seemed the highest quality of the ones I looked at and fitted nicely in my existing installation.
i would have thought your installer should be recommending a chemical clean and flush of your existing pipework especially if you already know its not the best.
 
We don't have any existing heating pipework, and the existing pipe work is all being ripped out. It's all going in brand new :).

Don't suppose you could put me in touch with your person at Ideal?
 
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The_One said:
Do not get an ideal boiler!!

Stick with the vaillant mate
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This.

Ideal are just terrible sadly. They used to make excellent boilers twenty years ago, but not anymore. The logics have very weak heat exchangers, which is really poor. And too many other minor issues mean you need to steer clear.
 
Has anyone had an unvented cylinder with immersion fitted? This is what we're now being recommended, in case of boiler failure then we have something to heat the water. And obviously (hopefully) it won't be used at any other time.

Seems a reasonable back up to me but is it worth the expense? @The One I'm looking at you :p.
 
platypus said:
Has anyone had an unvented cylinder with immersion fitted? This is what we're now being recommended, in case of boiler failure then we have something to heat the water. And obviously (hopefully) it won't be used at any other time.

Seems a reasonable back up to me but is it worth the expense? @The One I'm looking at you :p.
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Expense? To add the immersion to mine (megaflo) was £50 for the sparkies time. Unless with the joule cyclone you have to buy an element for it.
 
platypus said:
Has anyone had an unvented cylinder with immersion fitted? This is what we're now being recommended, in case of boiler failure then we have something to heat the water. And obviously (hopefully) it won't be used at any other time.

Seems a reasonable back up to me but is it worth the expense? @The One I'm looking at you :p.
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I have as you describe, but unless i misunderstand you, you would always have an immersion installed within a cylinder anyway. The cylinder which was specified in the OP (Joule Cyclone 200L unvented cylinder) comes with one as standard?
 
platypus said:
Another day, another question :).

We've had a few heating engineers round, and a quote in this morning. After picking myself up off the floor, they've recommended a Vaillant Eco-Tec 832, a 22mm Adey magnaclean, and a Joule Cyclone 200L unvented cylinder.
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The 832 is a combi boiler, yet you are having an unvented cylinder installed? This doesn't make sense.
 
fezster said:
The 832 is a combi boiler, yet you are having an unvented cylinder installed? This doesn't make sense.
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This is a good point and the OPs quote makes no sense. The cylinder specified is an indirect unvented cylinder (best option), but you wouldnt obviously have a combi with that.
 
fezster said:
The 832 is a combi boiler, yet you are having an unvented cylinder installed? This doesn't make sense.
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I use a combi to heat my megaflo...

But that was more out of using what was already there (a 2 year old worcester) than spending another £1k to achieve the same thing.
 
Jez said:
This is a good point and the OPs quote makes no sense. The cylinder specified is an indirect unvented cylinder (best option), but you wouldnt obviously have a combi with that.
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You are both quite right, thats completely the wrong boiler.

Back to the plumber then..
 
It'll either be a 6xx system boiler or a 4xx heat only boiler.

I'd personally go for the heat only with an external expansion vessel kit and external pump, running as a sealed system. These parts are then cheaper and easier to replace than with a system boiler.
 
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