Boiler has died :(

Woogie

Woogie

Woogie

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Lost all of our central heating and hot water yesterday but the boiler was firing up perfectly fine. Had our plumber out today and he has had to disconnect the boiler completely as he said it is unsafe and is leaking (I wasn't at home so don't know exactly what)

I kinda thought this was the case but sucks... time to find a few thousand to have the boiler replaced while trying to pay for a wedding, Fun times ahead.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a reasonable combi-boiler. Nothing too flashy as we will be moving in a few years so no point going all out.
 
Abyss said:
I have always been impressed with the Worcester Bosch range of boilers.
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I'll second that. I had a Worcester Bosch 38CDi installed almost a year ago and it's been brilliant.

Most people on here will recommend either Worcester Bosch or Vaillant. The best advice is to find a good local independent accredited installer who specialises in which ever manufacturer you prefer as you could end up with an enhanced warranty and a better deal overall.
 
Mickie said:
baxi duo tec, 7 year guarantee..

not really into all the plastic in Worcester bosch..
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Got the same boiler fitted just before christmas.
Cant go wrong with the 7 year guarantee.

My Ideal Isar packed up a week before xmas, no surprise really :rolleyes:
 
For the money and your requirements, I'd go for the duo tec HEA, get it fitted by someone registered with Baxi, to get the 7 years warranty. This is a must! And steer clear of the GA version.

Mick
 
Vailant have a stainless steel heat exchanger, also a 7 year warranty. I think the baxi platinums also have this.
 
MaxP779 said:
Vailant have a stainless steel heat exchanger, also a 7 year warranty. I think the baxi platinums also have this.
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I'd heard that Aluminium offered better heat conductivity and that to combat the faster corrosion the ally is coated on the WB's and others.

Can anyone confirm?
 
MaxP779 said:
Vailant have a stainless steel heat exchanger, also a 7 year warranty. I think the baxi platinums also have this.
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Yeah the Baxi Platinum does, the duotec is the same boiler though just with a 7 year warranty instead of the 10 year the platinum comes with.
 
Well I just received the quote which is as follows:

Parts

Worcester Bochh 36CDI Compact Combi Boiler (6 year Warranty £40 extra to up this to 7 years)
Vertical Flue
Worcester Clock
Pipes + Fittings
Chemicals to flush the system and prevent corrosion (Not a power flush)

Labour

Remove existing boiler
Remove water cistern from loft
Re-run gas from meter to new boiler position
Fit new boiler in airing cupboard
Fit controls to meet Part L of new building regs
Refill System
Clean system with chemical cleaner
Add Inhibitor, Commission and test
Register boiler with Gas Safe
Register Warranty with Bosch
Clean site

Total cost £3720

Not sure if that is good

Having had a quick look the boiler seems to be between £1,200-1800 but mostly around £1200 so assuming he is getting it at that. The plumber we got the quote through isn't the cheapest but does quality work, has thrown things in for free before (Thermostat, Timer on the new boiler and a few part when he has done previous work) and even told us we didnt need our entire heating system changed when we first moved in when I asked him for a quote for it (He did say he was happy to do it but said we didn't need it just that the boiler may need replacing in the coming years....)
 
They aren't, we requested that as we want the space in the kitchen. Having a combi means we can get rid of the cistern and water tank so can move it where the water tank was in the airing cupboard and reclaim that space in the kitchen.
 
Thats quite expensive but it might be the moving and fitting of gas pipes that adds to the cost. Paid £2400 to take out and replace with a Vailliant Eco Tec boiler but it wasn't being moved. Included 7 year warranty, all fitting costs, flush system, instal magclean etc. This was in London with an expensive plumber.
 
Woogie said:
They aren't, we requested that as we want the space in the kitchen. Having a combi means we can get rid of the cistern and water tank so can move it where the water tank was in the airing cupboard and reclaim that space in the kitchen.
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Ahh OK. The cost of moving will be adding a fair amount to the overall cost as its a fairly major amount of work, particularly as it involves gas.
 
Yeah I figured that was the case as I know the cost of copper pipe is not exactly cheap just wanted confirmation. Seems to be getting some mixed opinions.
 
Woogie said:
They aren't, we requested that as we want the space in the kitchen. Having a combi means we can get rid of the cistern and water tank so can move it where the water tank was in the airing cupboard and reclaim that space in the kitchen.
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we did exactly the same thing last year and paid about 3400 but I think we have greenstar 38cdi combi

we paid about 80 quid extra to get the magnetic filter which gave us an extra years warranty (so 8 years) and I couldnt believe how much is had collected when it was serviced

we were also fortunate that the gas supply pipe from the meter went up into the upper floor floorspace and under the bathroom before dropping down into the kitchen where the old boiler was..so we didnt need a big run of pipework for the gas supply..the other bonus of putting it into the old airing cupboard was there is an internal soil stack there so the condensation outflow taps into that rather than to an outside wall, so no risk of it ever freezing
its made a huge difference to the heating bills
 
Why not get another quote with the movement of the boiler and then you can see if it's really worth it. Whilst the space in the kitchen is nice to have it should only take up the space of 1 wall unit and if you get it box in nice with a door on you won't even know.

Plus you'll have to make good the space in the kitchen where it used to be also.
 
Whatever you get make sure it has not been sat in a warehouse for a few years. Boilers are often upgraded keeping the same spec/model number.

We had a 'new' Vailant fitted. After it started leaking I dug into it a bit and found that Vailant had replaced some 'not fit for purpose' pipes. Unfortunately mine still had the old pipes because the dam thing had been sat somewhere for a couple of years. Vailant refused to rectify the unfit for purpose pipes, even though it was still in warranty.

I had a bad experience from Vailant and their customer service. I wouldn't ever recommend them because of this and always make sure I put my 2 pence worth in when ever anyone asks the 'what boiler' question.
 
If you want the best customer service out there, then get a Worcester Bosch fitted, and have it fitted by someone approved by WB.

No matter how good other boilers are, Ive not seen any of them come near WB for customer service.

Mick
 
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