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Bonus on Ryzen?

gavinh87 said:
On the other hand it was only a short while ago people were saying an i5 is your best bet for gaming. That quickly moved onto i7. It wont be long before 6 cores are needed. Whether its zen or zen+ nobody knows but its something to bear in mind.
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People have been saying it won't be long until more cores are needed since time began. More cores simply aren't needed. Four cores for the most part are complete overkill.

Don't forget we are a very niche section of an industry which simply doesn't need to cater for us. Just check the most popular gaming rigs on steam and you'll see a desktop i3 is even way too much!

I would consider those who max a cpu during gaming i.e those who lower settings to get 120+ fps to be even more of a smaller segment of the market. Even the GPU vendors are getting this now having reduced sli/cf support.

Quite simply by the time more cores becomes a necessity zen or at least the first generation of zen will be long past it.
 
Brazo said:
People have been saying it won't be long until more cores are needed since time began. More cores simply aren't needed. Four cores for the most part are complete overkill.

Don't forget we are a very niche section of an industry which simply doesn't need to cater for us. Just check the most popular gaming rigs on steam and you'll see a desktop i3 is even way too much!

I would consider those who max a cpu during gaming i.e those who lower settings to get 120+ fps to be even more of a smaller segment of the market. Even the GPU vendors are getting this now having reduced sli/cf support.

Quite simply by the time more cores becomes a necessity zen or at least the first generation of zen will be long past it.
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With this situation though Amd will be competitive against 1151 and x99 and have superior pricing throughout.
With dirt cheap 4c, 4c8t 6c12t and 8c16t to cater for users and longevity in the socket. For once Amd are truely competitive which is more than can be said for their gpu's
 
OP you have a near top spec machine for running BF1 :)

An OC'd 4770k is fine and if you want upgrade your GPU once Vega is out (hopefully it has a nice effect on prices (maybe))

You would need to go 1080ti performance or better to notice any difference from your 980ti. Know someone who went 980ti to 1080 and no real world noticeable difference.

No way would I buy into a full Ryzen system at this time for just a gaming rig (I wouldn't buy Ryzen till all the issues were resolved).

2018 zen 2 would be a better bet.
 
While I do agree that aside from an upgrade itch there is little to upgrade from an i7 Haswell to Ryzen, people seem to have mostly ignored that the OP specifically mentioned BF1. And assuming this is multiplayer BF1 then that is one of the games which really loves cores:
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That's from ComputerBase's Ryzen review but that review and their previous core scaling one all showed that the 4C/8T is not enough for a smooth BF1 multiplayer experience.
However, while it seems most review sites prefer to run BF1 in DX11 as it has higher FPS, maybe it's worth it for the OP to stick with they have but run in DX12?
As only some CPUs lose frames in DX12 vs DX11 (like the HEDT i7-6900K goes from 136.5 to 117.3 in 1080P). The i7-7700K actually gains FPS (from 116.2 to 120.4 again at 1080P), and more importantly it gains a lot in smoothness:
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So I think the OP could save their money and wait until Zen2, Cannonlake etc. If memory bandwidth isn't why the 6C/12T i7-6850K wins at DX12, then a 6C/12T Cannonlake should do quite well in BF1, and for Zen2 there seem to be plenty of low-hanging fruit for AMD to implement.
 
No, I think it is obvious that he could have a better CPU for only BF1 but.. It is still too much of a side step, just an opinion though.

If he had higher resolution, yeah sure, but he has not so.... meh, it's just a side step so wait play, spend later
 
I've got pretty much same spec as you and have just gone to a 1080ti from a 980ti and that upgrade was well worth the money.
 
Now we have a lot of reviews out for AMD`s Ryzen, for a intel cpu owner it looks very much like a side grade or just more of the same when it comes cpu performance. It would be better to get a New GPU or like many have said keep your money the bank.
 
I know the allure of new tech is strong, but as someone with a 4770k you wouldn't gain much out of it just yet.

You should wait. GPU maybe if you have a high resolution panel.

Even then a 980ti is still good.

Keep the money in the bank. ;)

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I've gone for a Ryzen but I'm upgrading from a 3570k so going 4/4 to 8/16 so big jump. Also I've seen with my own eyes my 3570k bottlenecking my 970 so felt time was right for the upgrade.

It's a gamble tho as Ryzen is new and lots of issues.
 
Just for gaming Ryzen is a hard sell over Haswell - but if you do rendering, dev work, run VMs, etc as well, it's a no brainer.
 
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