Boredom...

I am like you I get bored and need new cars now and again, just go for something different a bit out their and you will feel good about it. I do :D
 
Rubbish, there isn't really any power. You need to cane it to move - and it moves quite well once you've done so, but below VTEC there is nothing there

Or on planet earth, pretty similar to an average 2.0i N/A. With a better gearchange. And sound. And 2000rpm to go.
 
I'd try an S2000 and a DC5 Integra. The CTR isn't quite as good as either as a drivers car, but way more practical.

The CTR is 4140mm long, DC5 is 4385mm, and the S2000 is 4120mm. So yes, the DC5 is longer, but it's not massive at all.
 
VTEC engines do require a different driving style - you use that little thing between the seats a little more ;)

The "problem" (if you can call it that) with a VTEC engined car is that other cars with similar performance/price levels often have a turbo - giving a different driving style and different power delivery, hence why VTECs are often referred to as having no torque when compared to competitors in the same sector.

They are still N/A engines, but they're optimised so that you have more power/performance whilst revving it higher. Some like that kind of power delivery and driver involvement (ie having to change to the most appropriate gear for the situation) and some don't!

But, the best thing to do is give one a try. You may like it, you may not. The modern i-VTEC engines don't have the same "kick" that the older B16/B18/H22 engines did, the power delivery is much smoother on the K20 used in the CTR/DC5 and the F20C in the S2000.

I've had my Prelude (with the H22 engine) for over 3 years now, and when I drop a couple of cogs and give it some beans, I still have the same smile on my face as I did the first time I drove it.
 
Weekend toy definately sounds like what you need.

Even though they're the same type of car, since having a track car I find myself pottering about in my daily drive without even being particularly interested in driving it hard but then when I take the track car out on the roads I can't help having a huge grin on my face and chucking it into corners it just makes driving so much fun. They feel like totally different cars. Having a modern car as a daily would make the contrast even greater.
 
Which is my point - an average 2.0 litre car from 2001-2005ish would have had about 130-140bhp. Therefore, in the context of 200bhp hatchbacks, 'no power'.

As long as you totally disregard "gearing", "picking up of revs", "torque at wheels", "gearbox" & "engine tractability" then you are correct.

*sigh*
 
*sigh* at the fanboys also :rolleyes:

It isn't always practical to drive everywhere at 6000+ RPM. And in a Type R, if you are not driving at 6000rpm, the performance really is rather average at best. Infact its below average.
 
I got a mental quote from my existing insurer for an S2000.. I could do a lot better going elsewhere, but It's looking like I may have to just hang around and put up with the GTI until January as there's no way I'm cancelling the policy and wiping out the few months I have towards this year's NCB. :(

No excuse not to take one for a test drive in the near future though - the more I look at them, the more I like them :) Thanks for the ideas thrown about in this thread, chaps.
 
[TW]Fox;12012388 said:
Right, so you are denying that a VTEC engine develops most of its power higher up the rev range?

No he's saying it's similar to any other 'all motor' 2.0l without VTEC.

I don't know why having to change down a gear to get into the power band is such an issue. It's bloody good fun.
 
[TW]Fox;12008139 said:
Infact its below average.

It's not 'below average' for an N/A 2.0 engine. When out of VTEC it'll happily potter about and give adequate performance for pottering about, the difference is you have that fun revvy engine for when the mood takes you.

The 'jekyll and hide' nature of Type-Rs is one of the charms :)
 
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