BORING SPEC ME THREAD - AGAIN!

[PhoenixUK]

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OC the crap out of it, be happy for next 1year or so without need of having quad, start saving money slowly. After 1 -1,5year sell it, add saved money, buy nehalem +ddr3 + gforce/radeon xyz god knows what it will be by then, OC the crap out of it -- rinse and repeat .

Getting quad just because it might be supported better in 1 or 2 years is imo a waste since with the current frequency of new technologies incoming you gotta change your rig at most every 1,5year to keep up. And as an overclocker I guess you would like to put your hands on newest technologies more often as well .

just my 2p

Phoenix

 

[bledd]

2gb? come on..
and he said he doesn't want sli/crossfire, that's the only difference between that and the p35-ds3r, for £50 extra, just throwing money away



you'll have to re-install windows anyway because it's a new machine

doesn't take that long at all on a fast pc though, you'd get probably £60-70 for the raptors, which would pay for the new drive

-realistic tips for the win

 

[Greebo]

2gb? come on..
and he said he doesn't want sli/crossfire, that's the only difference between that and the p35-ds3r, for £50 extra, just throwing money away



you'll have to re-install windows anyway because it's a new machine

doesn't take that long at all on a fast pc though, you'd get probably £60-70 for the raptors, which would pay for the new drive

-realistic tips for the win

Good point about the windows re-install. I hate doing that but I suppose it will force me to have a clearout again. Might even put Vista Ultimate back on since it's gathering dust on the shelf. Or maybe even a dual boot with the new drive.

Phoenix: Valid point about upragding later so may not be worth while getting the quad however they are still tempting me due to a quad at 3.5Ghz just seems better than a E8400 at 4Ghz especially £30 -£50 cheaper.

I'm a frugal overclocker. I normally either buy 2nd hand or mid range or slightly older tech which has dropped in price and then maximise the oc from it. May not get the best/maximum performance but I get a hell of a lot for my money!

hmmmm decisions, decisions

 

[steve258]

Depends on your use really if you're not a heavy multitasker or video/audio encoder then you'll find 3 cores idling a lot of the times which you may feel a bit of a waste.

But £176 for a dual core is just a bit :/

E8200 is a lot more sensible and 8 multi is still not too bad when it comes to overclock, but it'll have a difficult time keeping up with the E8400.

 

[PhoenixUK]

I think that this board is slightly better on the OC features / capabilities than p35ds3r, hence the choice, not because of the 2nd pcie.

Keep the raptors as booting drives if the noise isnt the issue for you.
2gb ram because he mention he wont be going vista, if he does then just as well we can slap in 8gb since 4 is no big deal anymore for vista ;].

And yeh 180quid for that dual is a bit BUT then its you who said that wants to spent ~500 and i still made it lower than that even with extra harddrive.

Also I think you can push it higher than 4 on water , especially with just 2gig ram.

4ghz+ duo has already $&(@#&) tons of power, i dont think you will need 2 extra cores any sooner than 1year, unless you gonna do some really heavy video/graphic editing.

Anyways, I hope you make your mind soon , either choice will be fine i guess.

I wanna see some nice OC there mate ! :>



Phoenix

 

[semi-pro waster]

PhoenixUK you might want to edit out the swearing.

Although you are right that dual core is enough for most I still think that quad core could come in handy for video encoding, particularly if Greebo might want to do other things at the same time.

 

[PhoenixUK]

PhoenixUK you might want to edit out the swearing.

Although you are right that dual core is enough for most I still think that quad core could come in handy for video encoding, particularly if Greebo might want to do other things at the same time.

Aye, sorry for that, I'll try to keep it on better level in the future .

Anyways, last time I remember I did some testing with friends [email protected].
What we threw at it was some nice heavy animation encoding in 3dmax, winamp, firefox with 8 or so windows, msn and on top of that we played UT2k3 ( maybe not newest stuff but hey still with so many things in background?).

So from my experience, unless you do some very high end graphic editing you will see your extra cores just idling. And if he gets good chip, with this mobo and memory it should imo hit at least 4.4 on water stable, which is more than enough I would say.


Although at the end of the day the choice belongs to him .
I'll just leave it for now, no point in posting more arguments, both choices are good so you probably wont see much difference between them. Quad will do slightly better in heavy encoding/editing, duo will do better in games and other single core apps.


I'm outta here, will keep an eye so keep us updated .



Cheers

Phoenix

 

[steve258]

Anyways, last time I remember I did some testing with friends [email protected]. What we threw at it was some nice heavy animation encoding in 3dmax, winamp, firefox with 8 or so windows, msn and on top of that we played UT2k3 ( maybe not newest stuff but hey still with so many things in background?)

Only because Windows does such a good job at switching between tasks, so if need be it'll just stop everything else and run the most demanding apps at the time.

Besides winamp, firefox and msn will take up a fair bit of RAM but hardly requires any CPU time (IIRC), so really the cpu is only dealing with 3dmax and UT2003 which a 3Ghz E6600 is perfect for.

Sure dual core can handle multiple apps no problem but quad just does it better.

 

[PhoenixUK]

Only because Windows does such a good job at switching between tasks, so if need be it'll just stop everything else and run the most demanding apps at the time.

Besides winamp, firefox and msn will take up a fair bit of RAM but hardly requires any CPU time (IIRC), so really the cpu is only dealing with 3dmax and UT2003 which a 3Ghz E6600 is perfect for.

Sure dual core can handle multiple apps no problem but quad just does it better.

And the main point here is "DO you really can make the right use of this 'better' "
which most ppl probably wont. If we're talking about using quad at it's best I'll also grab 8gb of ram for encoding/editing and at least extra 1tb drive.