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FunkyCowie

FunkyCowie

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Not sure if its my graphics card or just the system its self but my system specs are very old so I am curious if I might find a cheap way of getting the best out of what I have even if it is by getting a second hand part. Do I have anything creating a bottleneck that can cause occasional jerkyness on screen.

My system specs are what I have in my signature... and I use my computer for video editing in Adobe Premiere, Adobe After Effects and Lightworks, 3D animation in Maya and Blender, photo editing with Adobe Photoshop, and the usual web, music, etc. I run both a 22" Samsung Monitor and a 19" Hanns G monitor running at different native resolutions.

Temps are low and I have never seen them go above 46C even when running... but the computer might crash when exporting media in Premiere or when Rendering out up to 500 frames from Maya dependant on complexity of model.

Nothing has been overclocked.
 
FunkyCowie said:
I would never have thought a PSU would cause crashes and occasional short freezes.
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PSU quality issues usually manifest in BSOD (if incorrect voltage is supplied on the rails and components are overloaded. A failing PSU will result more often than not in the system powering down for upto 20mins at a time.
 
Don't get BSODs just screen stuttering or when rendering out something intensive the computer might just restart but temps don't ever go over 50C usually stick in the 40's.
 
You could try downloading HijackThis and check your system for any malware.

Additionally, your HDDs could be slowing the data transfer down.

Final thing to check, northbridge, southbridge temps and CPU thermal compound application (and contact with heatsink).
 
1 week old install of Win8 from scratch so no malware :)

Not sure what I could do with the hard drives...

CPU contact should be fine, its at 18c on idle and about 45-46 max under full load. What software can I use to check NB and SB temps?

RAM is at 1600mhz
 
I have just adjusted my HD set up on this install of Win8 and just now trying to get Premiere to crash so I could check the temperatures under load like it had been but its proving to be very difficult... maybe it was the hard drives.

Regarding the CPU I am saving up for a new rig but it will likely be about 1-2 years before I can get enough cash together to buy a whole new system and then it would depend whether AMD or Intel are better at that point, right now if I had the cash I would be going intel.
 
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After bit of messing around I finally got the stats of my drives hopefully this does not come out too large.

DRIVES.jpg


C:/ is Win8 (80GB partition on Drive 0 6gb)
D:/ is Software (80GB partition on Drive 1 6gb)
E:/ is Data (386GB partition on Drive 0 6gb)
F:/ is Data (386GB partition on Drive 1 6gb)
M:/ is win8 software RAID 1 for important data... though I was planning on doing hardware RAID 1 after I have juggled some data around. (x2 200GB 3gb drives 2 and 3)


Previously it was laid out as the same but M:/ was Software RAID 0 as I was having trouble with setting up hardware RAID 0
 
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Trying to push my system to cause this affect I am moving 60GBs of video data from one drive to another whilst trying to use Maya and I am experiencing the screen stuttering.

So if its causing issues in this, it could be why it might go as extreme as causing a crash because it can't handle the the amount of data when rendering out video or frames, so is there any way I can improve this?

Looking Task Manager CPU is at 7%, MEM at 23%, DISK at 30%...
 
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Installed LatencyMon and ran Maya, Photoshop and Chrome open with both Monitors running and its telling me that it might be related to power managment, to disable any CPU throttling in Control Panel and BIOS. and to install latest BIOS but the BIOS is the latest.

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CONCLUSION
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Your system seems to have difficulty handling real-time audio and other tasks. You may experience drop outs, clicks or pops due to buffer underruns. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates. 
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for  0:31:32  (h:mm:ss) on all processors.


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SYSTEM INFORMATION
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Computer name:                                        NIUNIU3
OS version:                                           Windows 8 , 6.2, build: 9200 (x64)
Hardware:                                             ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC., M5A99X EVO
CPU:                                                  AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor
Logical processors:                                   6
Processor groups:                                     1
RAM:                                                  16345 MB total


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CPU SPEED
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Reported CPU speed:                                   2809.0 MHz
Measured CPU speed:                                   4244.0 MHz (approx.)

Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results.


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MEASURED INTERRUPT TO USER PROCESS LATENCIES
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The interrupt to process latency reflects the measured interval that a usermode process needed to respond to a hardware request from the moment the interrupt service routine started execution. This includes the scheduling and execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event.

Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs):   1080.336741
Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs):   4.851459

Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs):       176.046777
Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs):       0.968586


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MEASURED SMI, IPI AND CPU STALLS
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The SMI, IPI and CPU stalls value represents the highest measured interval that a CPU did not respond while having its maskable interrupts disabled.

Highest measured SMI or CPU stall (µs)                46.289732


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 REPORTED ISRs
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Interrupt service routines are routines installed by the OS and device drivers that execute in response to a hardware interrupt signal.

Highest ISR routine execution time (µs):              121.526878
Driver with highest ISR routine execution time:       dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation

Highest reported total ISR routine time (%):          0.046322
Driver with highest ISR total time:                   dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation

Total time spent in ISRs (%)                          0.050503

ISR count (execution time <250 µs):                   260843
ISR count (execution time 250-500 µs):                0
ISR count (execution time 500-999 µs):                0
ISR count (execution time 1000-1999 µs):              0
ISR count (execution time 2000-3999 µs):              0
ISR count (execution time >=4000 µs):                 0


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REPORTED DPCs
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DPC routines are part of the interrupt servicing dispatch mechanism and disable the possibility for a process to utilize the CPU while it is interrupted until the DPC has finished execution.

Highest DPC routine execution time (µs):              249.075828
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time:       nvlddmkm.sys - NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 327.23 , NVIDIA Corporation

Highest reported total DPC routine time (%):          0.051735
Driver with highest DPC total execution time:         rspLLL64.sys - Resplendence Latency Monitoring and Auxiliary Kernel Library, Resplendence Software Projects Sp.

Total time spent in DPCs (%)                          0.136462

DPC count (execution time <250 µs):                   5726770
DPC count (execution time 250-500 µs):                0
DPC count (execution time 500-999 µs):                0
DPC count (execution time 1000-1999 µs):              0
DPC count (execution time 2000-3999 µs):              0
DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs):                 0


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 REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS
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Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution.

NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit.

Process with highest pagefault count:                 msmpeng.exe

Total number of hard pagefaults                       645
Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process:          243
Highest hard pagefault resolution time (µs):          229987.592738
Total time spent in hard pagefaults (%):              0.025171
Number of processes hit:                              7


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 PER CPU DATA
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CPU 0 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       44.779063
CPU 0 ISR highest execution time (µs):                48.702029
CPU 0 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.000909
CPU 0 ISR count:                                      41
CPU 0 DPC highest execution time (µs):                169.221075
CPU 0 DPC total execution time (s):                   8.322581
CPU 0 DPC count:                                      5243573
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CPU 1 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       13.520165
CPU 1 ISR highest execution time (µs):                66.362763
CPU 1 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.013752
CPU 1 ISR count:                                      597
CPU 1 DPC highest execution time (µs):                152.007832
CPU 1 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.102754
CPU 1 DPC count:                                      3978
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CPU 2 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       10.988436
CPU 2 ISR highest execution time (µs):                68.948380
CPU 2 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.018109
CPU 2 ISR count:                                      764
CPU 2 DPC highest execution time (µs):                131.113564
CPU 2 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.101778
CPU 2 DPC count:                                      3847
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CPU 3 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       9.437973
CPU 3 ISR highest execution time (µs):                85.712353
CPU 3 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.041533
CPU 3 ISR count:                                      1686
CPU 3 DPC highest execution time (µs):                147.606978
CPU 3 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.104053
CPU 3 DPC count:                                      4595
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CPU 4 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       9.196245
CPU 4 ISR highest execution time (µs):                92.873977
CPU 4 ISR total execution time (s):                   0.328020
CPU 4 ISR count:                                      13863
CPU 4 DPC highest execution time (µs):                223.477750
CPU 4 DPC total execution time (s):                   0.261847
CPU 4 DPC count:                                      19655
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CPU 5 Interrupt cycle time (s):                       20.250918
CPU 5 ISR highest execution time (µs):                121.526878
CPU 5 ISR total execution time (s):                   5.331309
CPU 5 ISR count:                                      243892
CPU 5 DPC highest execution time (µs):                249.075828
CPU 5 DPC total execution time (s):                   6.599569
CPU 5 DPC count:                                      451122
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Adjusted a bunch of settings in BIOS, half of which sound right to change, but don't really know what they do and also adjusted the Power settings in windows as a few sound like they might be better off disabled even in High Performance mode. Will see how this goes.
 
Your CPU is massively overclocked - you may need to remove this OC temporarily to see if the problem persists. If it doesn't, your OC is causing issues where the CPU/Mobo is downclocking the system in self-preservation.

If it doesn't resolve the issue, then the problem could be related to something that we haven't explored...


That is all if your BIOS changes haven't resolved the issue yet...
 
Thats the thing I did not have it overclocked... I only just spotted that myself... quite a few settings on this board when the bios is reset to standard are on auto and due to the chinglish they are not easy to understand. I'll re run that report tonight and see what happens. Thanks for pointing that out, it may have been like that since first install last year, hope nothing has been damaged...
 
i would dump the x2 200GB Sata 3Gb, and add an SSD.
the PSU you have is fine for your system. but i have seen your review saying you got it for the extra watt's that your system use's, i can confirm your system would run fine on a 400W+ psu.

also "I" would put the x2 500GB Sata 6Gb in raid 0

did you stress test you OC?
 
It is likely due to a BIOS setting such as AMD Auto Clock or something similar, which can sometimes use 'safe' overclock parameters for a 'stable' overclock.

I use 'safe' and 'overclock' in inverted commas to represent the all-or-nothing approach to the BIOS' ability here. It merely picks the highest and widest parameters for guaranteed OC, but minimised lifespan (sometimes).

Often it will push far more voltage to the CPU than it needs, thereby making it hotter, and more likely to receive heat damage over time. I've also heard details that some AMD CPUs don't correctly represent the temperatures, although as an Intel user, I cannot comment further on this.
 
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