Brakes help

GT3 · 18 Feb 2007 at 23:14

On my 106 diesel suddenly the brakes went, put my foot to the floor and it just lost all pressure in the pedal and when i braked hard it pulls to one side.

Looked under rear of the car and theres fluid dripping out the drum casing.

Dont know much about drum brakes but is this a cylinder has gone? Do they just go suddenly like that? How hard are they to replace?

Cheers

Archibald0 · 19 Feb 2007 at 00:49

that happened to me last month, same car as well.

A guy i know has his own car business, he just resealed it and charged me for labour

-gem- · 19 Feb 2007 at 02:01

Right, drum brakes.

I'm assuming you're fairly competant at mechanics here

Jack the back of the car up, and whip the wheel off.

You need to pop the hub cap off, then undo the hubnut (32mm iirc). Depending on how knackered the drum is, you'll need to slowly work it off, with a big flat bladed screwdriver.

Once its off (hopefully), You should be able to see where the fluids coming from. My bet would be a weeping slave cylinder. About £15 to replace.

Lopéz · 19 Feb 2007 at 07:14

-gem- said:
Depending on how knackered the drum is, you'll need to slowly work it off, with a big flat bladed screwdriver.

Hardest bit of the job. Don't underestimate just how firmly attached drums become over the years

ci_newman · 19 Feb 2007 at 08:36

Lopéz said:
Hardest bit of the job. Don't underestimate just how firmly attached drums become over the years

Not if you invest in a drum-puller

I would recommend changing the rear shoes too, if the rear piston has been leaking then there is a good chance that the shoes are now contaminated too

-westy- · 19 Feb 2007 at 08:36

Lopéz said:
Hardest bit of the job. Don't underestimate just how firmly attached drums become over the years

When Miles tried removing mine it wouldn't free up - just took the beam off instead

ci_newman · 19 Feb 2007 at 10:58

-westy- said:
When Miles tried removing mine it wouldn't free up - just took the beam off instead

Ah good old Miles! I know quite a few people who have dealt with him (myself included, however I was *selling* him a rear beam)

Jonny ///M · 19 Feb 2007 at 12:28

Lopéz said:
Hardest bit of the job. Don't underestimate just how firmly attached drums become over the years

haha me and my dad tried it with a hub puller,the lip of the hub nut cover stopped it sitting flush so it didnt work. A screwdriver around it once and pulling side to side got it off eventually. That had been on for years. Good luck if the pads are binding to the drum

-westy- · 19 Feb 2007 at 16:44

ci_newman said:
Ah good old Miles! I know quite a few people who have dealt with him (myself included, however I was *selling* him a rear beam)

He did my rear beam for me on Sunday, did an excellent job

GT3 · 19 Feb 2007 at 16:47

Sounds easy enough, mallet and chisel should get the drum off

Just need to order the part now.

my 25 mile commute is fun at the moment :eek:

commodore16 · 19 Feb 2007 at 18:07

For crying out loud if it's that bad find another way to commute until it's fixed, it ain't worth the risk :rolleyes:

Lopéz · 19 Feb 2007 at 18:13

I think DRZ has been attempting to get the drums off my old Mondeo for 3 weeks (not 3 solid weeks, admittedly

)

GT3 · 19 Feb 2007 at 21:25

commodore16 said:
For crying out loud if it's that bad find another way to commute until it's fixed, it ain't worth the risk

I've got another car but don't wanna put the miles on it

Lopéz · 19 Feb 2007 at 21:27

Be warned, if you really are driving it with a popped cylinder, it will only maintain what minimal pressure is left for a short time. You will soon lose all the fluid and hence the brakes. If it's popped hard enough for you to notice it suddenly through the pedal you really don't want to be driving it.

darkblade · 20 Feb 2007 at 01:35

-westy- said:
He did my rear beam for me on Sunday, did an excellent job

Erm - that kinda sounds bad!!

GT3 · 20 Feb 2007 at 16:49

Lopéz said:
Be warned, if you really are driving it with a popped cylinder, it will only maintain what minimal pressure is left for a short time. You will soon lose all the fluid and hence the brakes. If it's popped hard enough for you to notice it suddenly through the pedal you really don't want to be driving it.

I know just been braking through the gears because I travel at off peak times on empty back roads. The footbrake does nothing at all now so fixing it later!

acharris · 20 Feb 2007 at 19:21

Good Job a little child never ran out on the road or you had to stop quick for some reason, as the car was not road worthy for 2 days. I know I travelled 1 mile to my local garage with a broken brake pipe coing home from work, but the pipe split at that moment and I still had limited braking on the pedal, but put the car straight in and took a bus to work and back the next day, didn't attempt to drive it anyway far for saftey reasons for other road users and pedestrians.

Archibald0 · 20 Feb 2007 at 19:25

GT3 said:
I know just been braking through the gears because I travel at off peak times on empty back roads. The footbrake does nothing at all now so fixing it later!

haha thats what i did as well, i didnt have another car so was like meh, i tend to brake a lot with my gears anyway

( |-| |2 ][ $ · 22 Feb 2007 at 04:47

GT3 said:
I know just been braking through the gears because I travel at off peak times on empty back roads. The footbrake does nothing at all now so fixing it later!

You're an idiot, I hope you get pulled over and fined.