Brash!

[cleanbluesky]

Anyone got any thoughts on brash/arrogant people. When I think arrogance I think of a few people, including our beloved Gilly on here - who seems to make that brashness work for him...

Is being brash always bad?

 

[cleanbluesky]

I think Ninja Economist would have to be included in that category.

Perhaps, at the end of a spectrum. He didn't strike me as someone for whom it 'works' though.

 

[cleanbluesky]

Brashness works for Sir Alan Sugar, doesn't it?

Works for his pocket, but otherwise he's a bit of a nob.

I'd like to hear from people who think they are brash...

 

[cleanbluesky]

You're not confusing confidence with brashness are you?

That's a really good question.

I think it is being brash when you are motivated by insecurity but confidence when you are not...

 

[cleanbluesky]

So my posting style is motivated by insecurity?

You tell me.

I was basically thinking out loud with what you quoted rather than saying anyone was anything (perhaps I was talking about myself though).

With the OP I wasn't sure, but I am now wondering whether there is a difference between arrogance and confidence. What do you think?

My question was really aimed at your perception of Gilly. I don't find him brash at all, just confident. He knows what he likes and he likes what he knows (as I've mentioned before) and he is very confident that what he knows is right, he's sometimes wrong of course (rarely though if you ask him) but I've never found him tactless in getting his side across. So in my opinion he's not brash at all, might be in person though, dunno. You could have easily accused a couple of others of being brash without an argument from me or anyone else so it's not that I'm saying you're wrong in your question, just your chosen example

I agree - I'm thinking out loud. I don't know whether I am aggrogant/brash/confident or just what they are...

I've been told I am arrogant and insecure, but I also think I have recognised the arrogance and I am changing already. I am wondering whether I have recognised the insecurity and the arrogance is turning into confidence.

I'm looking for feedback basically, rather than trying to label anyone.

 

[cleanbluesky]

Going by your online persona, which is all I can go by of course, I'd say you're far from arrogant but quite close to being insecure. You analyse others constantly it seems, trying to find a weakness in them or if they are weak already, you always try to find what would make them happy or tick better.

To some extent, I am always analysing to find both strengths and weaknesses. I look for the strengths because I want to find what is useful about a character, I look for weaknesses because I want to know how to forgive them if they are nasty to others.

I could go on for a while but can't be bothered, but I'll ask you a question instead, can you or have you ever been able to laugh at yourself or your failings?

Yes, although that's a long a complicated question that I don't fully understand. I think you mean whether I am ULTRA SERIOUS about all my failings or not. I have been, but not always.

I have come to realise over the last week is that weaknesses are not to be guarded, they are better aired and then with understanding they disappear.
What makes me strong is to know when I am weak, as Ben Harper said.

 

[cleanbluesky]

This isn't meant in bad way at all but do you ever have real fun?
Do you ever let your hair down (hypothetically of course) & really let yourself go in public? Do you ever do silly things that you feel embarrassed about in the morning? Do you ever think about yourself & what might make you happy without thinking what it might mean to others?
It's not always as complicated as you see it, my initial question was very simple but you still looked deep in to it and yourself.
Lighten up a bit, heard that before?

I have fun but I don't drink.

I don't 'let myself go' in public but I have worked into a state whereby I do not care what people think of me, or what the reaction that other people will have to my jokes or comments.

I am self-concious and aware of what other people will think of me, but I rarely seek approval.

I don't do silly things, and I am rarely if ever embarrassed.

As far as wondering what things mean to others, without an understand of who you are in relation to others - how would you know yourself...

 

[cleanbluesky]

I almost cried earlier. I thought the story of the dog was so damn touching.

You're right, I don't describe things in emotional terms. I see emotion as weakness sometimes.

 

[cleanbluesky]

me too, actually.

little animals turn me into a big girls' blouse...but that missing kid in portugal? nothing...it elicits zero emotion in me.

*n

I also have a similar attitude on that.

The suffering of a child gets to me a bit (like the video of that girl in Iraq who was stoned to death), the suffering of animals makes me feel really bad, the video of the fish being cooked alive was bad as well.
But videos of adult humans suffering cause a mild interest in me.