Broadband / Wiring help . . .

[MehulLakhani]

Hi All

At work we have just had broadband installed for our waiting room. The guy came from BT, and put the socket on the wall, but he wouldnt do anymore cabling . It is now my job - as the unofficial IT bod to get this sorted out - so I need the collective help of OcUK !

We have the socket on the wall, which I assume is working, and the router has arrived also. The whole building is wired up through the middle, and everything terminates in the cabinet shown below.

The waiting room has a number on it, and that corresponds with the number in the cabinet. So therefore I assume that there is a length of network cable running between them. Ideally I would like to be able to just buy some adaptors and cables, so that the telephone signal from the socket in the hub room, "appears" at the network socket downstairs in then I can plug in the router.

Question is , what adaptors/cables etc do I need to do this.

R

Mehul



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[Deleted member 651465]

You will need
1) NTE5 filtered faceplate from solwise
2) IDC punch down tool (also known as krone punch)
3) Length of cat5 cable
4) Cat5 connectors and crimp (if making your own cables)
5) Cat5 to BT lead
6) ADSL spitter filter (comes with all modems anyway)
7) Patience

The way I'd do this is..

Cat 5 from back of the BT socket punch down terminal A & B (with a modified solwise filtered faceplate, the one with the 5 blue terminals), connected to the nearest cat 5 point for sake of cleanliness.

This will take your ADSL signal from the phone socket and send it down the structured cabling. If you aren't experience in crimping RJ45 plugs then you can just cut the end off a premade cable and connect wires 4 and 5 (blue-White and blue) to A and B as mentioned above.

Then, at the patch panel take a cat 5 lead from the number socket you connected to, and either put your own phone socket in the hub room or instead buy a premade cat 5 to BT cable and plug the lead directly in to a adsl filter (the dongle type) and then the modem and phone to this as normal.

One important thing to note. NEVER EVER connect the raw phone signal to a switch or network device. You WILL kill it. Make sure you disconnect point 26 (or whatever number port / socket you use) out of any switches before you connect it to the phone line.

Hope that's clear. On a phone, so limited to what I can post.

Ideally businesses do what I said above, but they have a dedicated voice patch panel instead of going direct from cat 5 to modem, but it doesn't look like you have the room. Check my house build thread for an idea about voice patching via patch panels if you're interested.

EDIT: you don't need a Filtered faceplate, but using this method would allow you to have a modem in the waiting room, in the future. You could use the supplied BT faceplate and run the signal as an extension, so it's up to you, the BT one will look less obtrusive but I can't go back and edit this post now lol

 

[MehulLakhani]

Thanks for the reply EVH

Quick question. Will the signal, i.e. the adsl signal degrade over distance within the building - the cable length from BT socket to the downstairs reception room will be >25metres.

Would I be better off actually pluggin the router into the BT socket in the hub room, then using an ethernet cable , i.e. internet etc, down to reception via the cabinet, and then picking up the internet connection in reception with another wireless router, to send the wi-fi signal out in the waiting room.

What router would work ? Are they called wireless extenders ?

R

Mehul

 

[benftl]

There will probably be degradation but a 25m run of twisted Cat5 would make it not something to worry about. You could easily check sync rate / modem attenuation with the modem plugged directly in to the BT socket and after you've extended it 25m.

Your second option would be a good idea IF your sync rate suffers from degradation AND you're happy using a second bit of equipment in the mix. I personally would try the 25m extension, compare against directly plugging in to the wall and seeing if you're happy with the result.

 

[MehulLakhani]

If I was going to use another piece of equipment to boardcast the wireless signal in the waiting room , what would I need ? - any links would be great .

Also, how do I stop people in the waiting room looking up inappropriate material . Can you get routers with a built in filter or something ?

R

Mehul