Broadwell desktop, pointless?

Telecaster · 21 Jan 2015 at 17:21

Just wondering what the point of Broadwell desktop will be, especially seeing as there will be a K variant, surely it will be such a short run before Skylake arrives that it will be almost still born? :confused:

I was wondering when to pencil in an upgrade from my 2500k, I guess it will be whenever Skylake arrives.

Dave2150 · 21 Jan 2015 at 19:42

Telecaster said:
Just wondering what the point of Broadwell desktop will be, especially seeing as there will be a K variant, surely it will be such a short run before Skylake arrives that it will be almost still born?

I was wondering when to pencil in an upgrade from my 2500k, I guess it will be whenever Skylake arrives.

Broadwell was delayed, though Intel are still releasing it close to Skylake as they promised 5th generation CPU's for the Z97 platform.

Skylake may end up getting delayed, plus we won't be seeing the -K variants of Skylake for a long time. We'll get the locked versions first on desktop.

Broadwell-K will be positioned to be the fastest mainstream CPU for a good 6 months I imagine (it will be faster than the 4790k for sure).

Telecaster · 21 Jan 2015 at 20:35

But would it be worth going Broadwell-K from a 2500k or should I just wait?

Damn these people, why can't they just bring out new products at moderate intervals?

Dave2150 · 21 Jan 2015 at 20:51

Telecaster said:
But would it be worth going Broadwell-K from a 2500k or should I just wait?

Damn these people, why can't they just bring out new products at moderate intervals?

I'd wait for sure unless your current CPU/Motherboard dies or your unhappy with your current CPU performance.

Skylake is a new architecture, hopefully it will be a significant boost over Haswell.

Nuclear Fusion · 21 Jan 2015 at 21:25

When I bought my 3770K I had Skylake in mind for my next upgrade. However I realise that probably won't be necessary so I'm going to hang on until Cannonlake or perhaps even later. I'd say wait until Skylake unless your CPU performance is inadequate.

silvagti · 21 Jan 2015 at 22:43

Does anyone know what Intel is planning with the broadwell chips on desktop? Surely it wouldn't make any sense for Intel to release Broadwell CPU's/Mobo's mid-2015 then release a whole new Skylake architecture only 6 months later?

8 Pack · 21 Jan 2015 at 23:01

Sure I know

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DragonQ · 21 Jan 2015 at 23:01

silvagti said:
Does anyone know what Intel is planning with the broadwell chips on desktop? Surely it wouldn't make any sense for Intel to release Broadwell CPU's/Mobo's mid-2015 then release a whole new Skylake architecture only 6 months later?

It'd make more sense to skip it entirely but for marketing purposes I doubt they'd do that. Desktop Broadwell seems like a waste of time in general; it's not likely to provide a significant improvement and it'll come too late.

Nuclear Fusion · 21 Jan 2015 at 23:15

8 Pack said:
Sure I know !!

Tell us the inside secrets (you know you want to!)

spot35 · 22 Jan 2015 at 09:12

silvagti said:
Does anyone know what Intel is planning with the broadwell chips on desktop? Surely it wouldn't make any sense for Intel to release Broadwell CPU's/Mobo's mid-2015 then release a whole new Skylake architecture only 6 months later?

Broadwell doesn't even look like it will offer DDR4 support in anything other than the servers. I can't see any compelling reason for a switch, frankly.

eddiew · 22 Jan 2015 at 11:27

Any good sources on the performance of Broadwell vs earlier gens? My 2500K is still good, but there's a couple of things could use a bit more speed... If there was something say 33% faster, specifically in single threads, it'd be worth considering

Legend · 22 Jan 2015 at 11:52

I thought Broadwell was supposed to be X99 compatible, and therefore DDR4?

spot35 · 22 Jan 2015 at 15:22

Legend said:
I thought Broadwell was supposed to be X99 compatible, and therefore DDR4?

Broadwell-e will be. It'll slot into the 2011-v3 socket and will probably come out at a similar time to the consumer Skylake chips if Intel's release cadence is to be followed. Broadwell (S, T, K, etc) will fit into the 1150 socket and from the reports I've read will not be DDR4 compatible.

~Mike~ · 22 Jan 2015 at 16:05

Doubt we will see Skylake K processors until earlier 2016 sadly.

spot35 · 22 Jan 2015 at 16:32

I agree

Dicehunter · 25 Jan 2015 at 02:58

silvagti said:
Does anyone know what Intel is planning with the broadwell chips on desktop? Surely it wouldn't make any sense for Intel to release Broadwell CPU's/Mobo's mid-2015 then release a whole new Skylake architecture only 6 months later?

If intel don't want to royally pee off a lot of people they will not release "New" Broadwell motherboards as that was the whole point of the Z97 release.

Deus Ex · 25 Jan 2015 at 15:04

Hold on mate I reckon. Its a cheap time to be a pc enthusiast.

Dave2150 · 25 Jan 2015 at 15:46

Misread, please delete.

David Bisset · 25 Jan 2015 at 16:27

spot was right - and nothing he said contradicts what you said.

Broadwell-E should be on X99 and support DDR4, probably out about the same time as Skylake (normal) comes along.

Before then we'll see Broadwell (all normal variants) which will be socket 1150 and DDR3 as far as we know.

Nothing was said about Skylake's socket support or DDR compatibility.

McGraw · 25 Jan 2015 at 16:58

Now that I'm back on the pc train I have a horrible feeling I'm going to end upgrading to Broadwell and then Skylake.