Broadwell-E: Reviews, Stuff and Owners

[Legend]

They're not intended for all 'professional' users either. Not all 'professional' software uses multiple cores effectively, at least not beyond 4 (which has been mainstream for a long time now).

For example, Photoshop actually doesn't benefit from more than 4 cores. A quad i5 is fine for Photoshop, a quad i7 will squeeze a tiny bit more performance out thanks to the extra threads, but anything above that it's wasted on Photoshop. Reference.

I don't believe that's true for Photoshop... not entirely anyway, as I have read certain filters will use more and there are instances where more than 4 WILL be utilised. But the casual user will of course be extremely unlikely to encounter this... but I'm not talking about casual users.

Of course not ALL professional users will need these CPU's. I didn't say that lol, but these are the types of people who WILL use them. Gamers certainly won't. But of course, as Jigger suggests, the uneducated are probably the ones buying them in droves lol!

Doesn't mean you can't buy the new shiny if you want it... why not, go nuts! That's not the point though.

 

[Combat squirrel]

They're not intended for all 'professional' users either. Not all 'professional' software uses multiple cores effectively, at least not beyond 4 (which has been mainstream for a long time now).

For example, Photoshop actually doesn't benefit from more than 4 cores. A quad i5 is fine for Photoshop, a quad i7 will squeeze a tiny bit more performance out thanks to the extra threads, but anything above that it's wasted on Photoshop. Reference.

Using adobe software daily for my job (videographer/photographer), I can assure you more cores is ALWAYS needed, that benchmark shows more than half the effects benefiting from more cores, also as new versions come out more stuff is threaded and GPU accelerated.

Hell no would I use a quad core for my daily work!! But intels prices are STUPID so Zen for me assuming 8 real cores or more

 

[Silent_Scone]

+1 - or for those with limited reading ability, those not able to see these make absolutely no difference to gaming compared to Devil's Canyon/Skylake cheaper 4 core CPU's.

Duuuh. Most users on here have limited understanding, at least when it comes to pushing this particular platform. The cost is relative, Intel are broadening the gap between platforms. You don't have to buy one to appreciate the lack of compromise.

 

[Destination]

Several of the comments have related to folks who might buy this instead should opt for a xeon if workloads are what they want to force through their processor, can someone explain to me now, the main differences in this big ten core beast and the xeon offerings?

 

[Cern]

Using adobe software daily for my job (videographer/photographer), I can assure you more cores is ALWAYS needed, that benchmark shows more than half the effects benefiting from more cores, also as new versions come out more stuff is threaded and GPU accelerated.

Hell no would I use a quad core for my daily work!! But intels prices are STUPID so Zen for me assuming 8 real cores or more

The Photoshop benchmarks show diminishing returns, many things tend to plateau after 4 cores and the rest after 6 cores.

To quote from the conclusions in that article:

"Multi-threaded actions hit a point of diminishing returns after around 6 CPU cores, and most completely stop improving after 8 CPU cores."

and

"Even though Photoshop may at times be able to use eight or even ten physical CPU cores, our testing has shown that it doesn't typically do so very effectively. Because higher core CPUs also tend to have lower operating frequencies, this means that the best CPU for Photoshop will be one with a moderate core count but a high operating frequency."

So even a fast clocked quad core i7 with multithreading is going to get you into that zone of diminishing returns and optimum efficiency.

Many other apps in the Adobe lineup such as Illustrator, InDesign and Dreamweaver don't benefit much from lots of cores either (nor would you really expect them to given the nature of how they work and what they are designed to do).

Premiere is where the real multi-core benefits kick in. But even there it's not as clear cut as all that it seems.

Away from Adobe, Corel Painter has the potential to benefit from lots of cores, but sadly doesn't because of how it's written (it's only relatively recently crawled into the 64-bit world). I truly wish this did handle multi core better as I might be tempted by Broadwell-E.

3D and video rendering is a whole different ballgame of course, but that's not really a point of contention.

 

[stuartharrison]

Benchmarks 6800k vs 6700k vs 5820k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtXnsUiNlI0

Non-overclocked though.

 

[mmj_uk]

Funny how with AMD's 8 core disaster the AMD camp were preaching for years about a multithreaded future and how it was smart future proofing, now Intel have 8-10 core processors which are both blazingly fast today (due to the single core performance) and probably future proof for the next decade yet anyone considering buying them have "limited hardware understanding". Suddenly, we should all be buying quad core Skylake's instead and not worry about the future which is what the Intel camp have argued all along, it just shows the AMD camp will say anything to talk down Intel products even if it means being hypocritical.

 

[faceman123]

i Guess with my 5820k I'm good for the next 3 years minimum

 

[JABenedicic]

Not computer related, but in general the concept fits.

When you get to a certain level of performance, the only things that you can get are marginal gains. This was best demonstrated and explained by the British Olympic Cycling Team, they have a video on it somewhere.

 

[Boomstick777]

Looking at these the 6700K holds it's own in gaming. More interested in what Zen and Intel's next lot of chips brings to the table later tbh.

 

[WatchTower]

I have a Broadwell E 6800k on the way. I have no PC at the moment.

 

[DarrenM343]

Gone from considering the 6950 to the 6900 as I doubt I'll put more than 8 cores to use, then to considering the 6850 as a better all rounder (gaming vs work stuff). I'm still thinking 8 cores is a better option as it'll be more handy as applications make use of more cores.
I use VM's but only usually one or maybe maximum at the same time but more often than not just one. 4 cores for the guest and 4 cores for the host seems a decent setup to me. As I also use Visual Studio which can be a bit of a beast with large solutions I think the 8 core will be the way to go with 64b ram.

....but then considered a 6700 as it'll do me for a while and will be a cheaper option as the PC might need to be moved around a lot and the next enthusiast chip will be on a different chipset so......

Talk about undecided!

 

[shamus21]

I think the 8 core is a waste of time now . 10 core is where its at if you need the performance other wise just get a 6 core and save money.

 

[FlanK3r]

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/p...i7-6950x-10jadrove-monstrum-pro-highendove-pc
-OC 4.2 GHz 1.2V a 4.3 GHz 1.3V s vodníkem
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10337...x-6900k-6850k-and-6800k-tested-up-to-10-cores
-OC 4.1 GHz vzduch
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Intel-Core-i7-6950X-10-core-Broadwell-E-Review
- OC 4.3 GHz 1.35V na Asus Deluxe II
http://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/intel-core-i7-6950x-6800k-test/
- OC 4.5 GHz pro jedno jádro 1.44V, všechna jádra max 4 GHz s 1.44V, i7-6800K to stejný
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-broadwell-e-6950x-6900k-6850k-6800k,4587.html
-6800K OC 4.4 GHz 1.45V, 6850K OC=4.4 GHz 1.25V, i7-6900K OC 1.38V a 4.3 GHz, i7-6950X OC 4.3 GHZ s 1.38V
http://www.kitguru.net/components/ryan-martin/intel-core-i7-6950x-broadwell-e-10-core-cpu-review/
-OC 4.2 GHz s 1.3V
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2016/05/31/intel-core-i7-6950x-broadwell-e-review/1
-OC 4.4 GHz 1.44V
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3075...irst-10-core-enthusiast-cpu-is-a-monster.html
-OC 4GHz+turbobnoost3 jádro na 4.5 GHz
http://hothardware.com/reviews/inte...dition-10-core-cpu-review-broadwell-e-arrives
-OC 4.3 GHz 1.295V
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-OC pro wprime1024M 4.4 GHz s 1.375V
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/93017-intel-core-i7-6950x-14nm-broadwell/
-OC 4.3 GHz 1.3V, s AVX jen 4.1 GHz
http://edgeup.asus.com/2016/05/get-...dwell-e-processors-asus-thermal-control-tool/
-OC 4.3 GHz 1.35V
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/intel_broadwell_e_core_i7_6900k_6950x_review,1.html
-OC 6900K 4.4 GHz s 1.34V, OC 4.4 GHz i7-6950X s 1.31V
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/77...950x-10-extreme-edition-cpu-review/index.html
-OC 4.4GHz s 1.385V
http://www.overclockers.com/intel-i7-6950x-broadwell-e-cpu-review/
-OC 4.2 GHz 1.2V
http://www.reviewstudio.net/2399-in...me-edition-review-the-v10-broadwell-e-is-here
-OC 4.3 GHz s 1.285V
http://hothardware.com/reviews/inte...dition-10-core-cpu-review-broadwell-e-arrives
-OC 4.3 GHz 1.3V
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...tel-broadwell-e-i7-6950x-i7-6900k-review.html
- OC i7-6950X 4.43 GHz s 1.36V pro Cinebench a 3D Mark, i7-6900K 4460MHz s 1.35V
http://techreport.com/review/30204/intel-boosts-the-high-end-desktop-with-its-broadwell-e-cpus
-preview
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/2016/05/intel-core-i7-6900k-review/
-OC i7-6900K 4.5 GHz pro Cinebench
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/intel_6950x_6900k_6850k_cpu_review/1
-OC 4.4 GHz 1.3V
http://pc.zoznam.sk/intel-core-i7-6950x-10-jadier-v-plnej-parade
-OC 4.4 GHz 1.3V
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_core_i7_extreme_edition_broadwell_e_cpu/
-OC 4342MHz
http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-6950x-processor-review-broadwell-e-benchmarked_181875
-OC 4GHz 1.26V
http://www.cowcotland.com/articles/2081/test-cpu-intel-i7-6950x.html
-bez OC
http://www.nordichardware.se/test/test-intel-core-i7-6950x-och-i7-6900k-14-nm-for-entusiaster.html

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-OC 4500 MHz 1.37V i7-6900K
http://www.benchmark.pl/testy_i_recenzje/intel-broadwell-e-premiera.html
-OC 4.4 GHz 1,35V 6900K-i7
http://www.sweclockers.com/test/221...0k-i7-6850k-och-i7-6800k-familjen-broadwell-e
-OC i7-6950X 4.3 GHz 1.2V
http://lab501.ro/procesoare-chipseturi/broadwell-e-intel-core-i7-6950x-review
-OC 4400MHZ pro Cinebench 1.37V

 

[colinmcr]

Anyone seriously planning a ten core? Just curious what you'd be running on it.

 

[Pascual]

Man, I see this stuff and the tech lust gets me. I want to upgrade from my 3770k so bad but the performance gains don't justify the price. for me. Having said that I rarely do anything CPU intensive apart from occasional video work and streaming.

 

[colinmcr]

Man, I see this stuff and the tech lust gets me. I want to upgrade from my 3770k so bad but the performance gains don't justify the price. for me. Having said that I rarely do anything CPU intensive apart from occasional video work and streaming.

I have 5930K plus a dual cpu rig running 14 Core Xeons so can't really justify the £1400 price tag for a ten core, which is more than I paid for two xeons (Engineer Samples though).

I do some video editing but never felt I needed to upgrade, but I do a lot of BONIC computational stuff also.

 

[ltron]

I am content with my 5820k and see no need to upgrade. I really think Intel are being silly with the prices given the very limited gains from Broadwell-E. I hope AMD will give them the kicking they richly deserve with Zen.

 

[Hedge]

I think my 5820k is broken, it constantly "fail overclock" on cold boot event at stock settings, in two different motherboards. So I'm gonna get a 6850k for now, and see what Zen brings later this year.
I would ideally get a skylake, but I cant be arsed switching motherboard until then

Asus motherboards?

My Sabertooth does this.

 

[opethdisciple]

I am very tempted now to wait till Z270 + Kaby lake, and also to see what Zen is like. Since that should all happen in 4-5 months time.

If Zen is good price/performance I could get that.

And if Kaby lake seems better on balance (since it'll have higher IPC) I could get that with Z270, and then hope Cannonlake is 6-core.

EDIT: I'm on a 3770k now and a decent mobo.

All this will happen by the end of 2016?