Bruce Lee vs....

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Some of you may remember the thread I started "Mike Tyson vs Bruce Lee" after a heated discussion with some mates in the pub, and while many people thought Bruce Lee would whip ass, some thought (such as myself) that Tyson may do fine, assuming both were in their primes. The thread was great with lots of decent discussion going on.

So lets see what people think of this, as some of my friends still think Bruce Lee could beat this guy in the ring, or on the street, or pretty much anywhere he wanted.

No1 ranked heavy weight MMA fighter in the world, from Russia, Fedor Emelianenko: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1562239811696539394&q=fedor

Fanstasy match up, to all you martial arts / Bruce Lee geeks, who do you think would win, and why!

 

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You don't think it'd be close?

There's no way two people could be so wrong as to think Tyson would even push Lee in one thread! Thats too much wrong to be contained.

Close between who, Fedor and Lee? I don't see Lee walking away from this one after a few minutes tbh.

 

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nah lee would always be the winner of any fight. he was a genius, he would have adapted his style with modern techniques or whathaveyou, plus the dude was fast and pound for pound one of strongest guys alive.. his muscles are insane -- the film where hes fighting chuck norris and you see his back - thats sick (as in so muscled it looks disgusting imo) plus his extended vsits and 1 fingerd pushups etc, hes quite clearly one of greatest fighters ever.

p4p one of the strongest ever? Hahaha! No where near Im afraid, Lee was tiny, but had decent build and a low body fat which is why he looked so strong.

Btw, muscle size does not equal strength. Lee's puny bone structure would be crushed by the Fedor's incredible power.

 

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Bruce Lee would scare Fedor all over the ring. The beating would be so swift and so severe that Fedor would actually cry for 3 weeks.
Seriously, you're putting up a bulky russian dude who only makes contact with half his hits (and even then they look hardcore staged) v.s the master.. Who's hits ALWAYS connect, and always connect perfectly.

No fair fight there tbh.

I hope this is sarcasm, because if not, you should never post in any combat related thread again.

 

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HAHAHAHAHA


Power to weight for Lee would be immense simply because he generated so much power from such a small frame.

There are people Lee's weight who can bench 500lbs. He was known to have a rather weak lower body, and a very strong upper body.

P4p, he is nowhere near the strongest ever.

 

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24 sucks tbh.


Technique > brute force.

BTW, how long has a weak lower body meant you can't have a strong punch?

Legs = punching power, something you would know if you knew anything about boxing.

Look at Tyson, Marciano's and David Tua's legs to see what I mean.

 

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Fedor's punches may pack a punch but his technique is rubbish. He swings to violently and to wide, Bruce Lee would be far to quick for him and we beat him hands down.

If you actually buy the dvd of some of Bruce Lee's real life fights (none of the movie stuff) he is so quick that half the the time the video can't keep up.

So I would place my bet on Bruce Lee.

I don't think Lee was even large enough to KO Fedor with his hands.

 

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I was expecting some sort of ruthless commie fighting machine, but he fights like your average fat drunken thug that you see on a saturday night

Then why is he the no1 hw ranked fighter in the world? Maybe you should get in there and show him how it's done....

Record

Judo
Moscow International Tournament 100kg weight 3rd place (January 24, 1999)
A-Tournament Sofia 100kg weight 3rd place (February 7, 1999)
Russian Championships Kstovo (absolute division) 3rd place (December 5, 1999 according to JudoInside; 1998 according to the Fedor's official website).
Dutch Grand Prix Rotterdam 100kg weight - 7th place (April 1, 2000)

Sambo
Russian Combat Sambo Champion (Moscow championship, 2002)
World Combat Sambo Champion (heavyweight division) (Saloniki, Greece, 2002)
World Combat Sambo Champion (absolute division) (Panama, 2002)
World Combat Sambo Champion (2005)

Mixed Martial Arts
23 wins (6 TKO's, 10 submissions, 7 decisions), 1 loss (TKO (Cut)).

RINGS King of Kings Heavyweight Tournament Champion (2001)
RINGS World Absolute Class Tournament Champion (2001)
PRIDE Heavyweight Champion (3/16/2003-present)
PRIDE Heavyweight Grand Prix Tournament Champion (2004)

 

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Bruce Lee's aim wasn't enormous strength, but speed and power, which he excelled at.

For the record though, he was incredibly strong. It's said he could hold a 125 pound barbell at arm's length with his elbows locked for several seconds. That's 9 stone for goodness' sake. He also did bicep curls with 80 pounds in reps of 8. Good luck finding many people who can do that.

Like I said, known for a very strong upper body, and a weak lower one.

 

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Because he is a savage animal? doesn't seem to me that he has any technique bar throwing his opponent on the floor and punching them in the head, half of which don't seem to make any contact.

So if he is wins with that technique, why does it matter?

 

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I've been a boxer.

I didn't say legs aren't used in punching, I said how long has it been that you can't have a strong punch with a weaker lower body. It isn't essential for a guy his size. Upper body strength would carry him. His back, shoulders and arms were built enough.

Could be, he was very small, so get me some evidence of other boxers his size with a weak lower body who had devestating (not just decent) punching power.

 

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Devastating?

Where did I say devastating?

You never did, I was just assuming that thats what people would consider his punching power to be, seeing as we have already had someone call him p4p the strongest ever.

So, show me a boxer with a weak lower body, built like Lee and in the same weight class, who has very good power for his division.

 

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9129056556125404864&q=cro+cop

Fedor vs Cro Cop, a very fast HW kickboxer, ranked one of the best in the world when he fought for k1.

 

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HAHAHAHAHA

Well, we have seen much bigger, stronger and experienced fighters than Bruce Lee not walking away from a from Fedor after a few minutes (tko not dead obviously) so I don't see why thats so funny.

Who did Bruce Lee fight again?

 

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I've never followed professional boxing further down the weight categories.

Are you really saying that arms, shoulders and back don't affect punching power?

Where did I say that?

Of course they affect it, just a 125lbs man with weak legs isn't going to hit very hard, despite his "ripped" physique.

 

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Grand Master Jack Man Wong, and some others.

Were any of them nearly as big / powerful / have chins like Fedor? Who else did these other people fight, and where are their records?

 

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I don't get you?. You recon i should stay shy of combat threads?, err, not really. Bruce lee was much quicker, and far far more accurate. Fedor seems to hit all over the place, i watched that vid again and you can count over and over the times that he brushes his apponent of misses all together. What i'm saying is that it would take a damn sight more than brute strength to take down the Lee..

He is a sambo world champion. He throws wild punches (which will KO you if you get caught clean) to make people turtle up, so he can clinch and take them down.

If Lee goes to the floor with him, it's over. Fedor could wrap his entire hand round Lee's tiny wrists, and submit / gnp him to and bloody stoppage.

 

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KO punch has almost nothing to do with mass and almost everything to do with accuracy.

it's not how hard you hit 'em that takes 'em down,
it's if you catch them on the sweet spot.

I have boxed for years, and while accuracy is important, so is power. You are not going to KO someone with a good chin with no power.

If what your saying is true, how come Ali was not KO'd by Frazier's left hook, on the point of his chin?

Look at this, right on the sweet spot:

 

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You may not know this, but chinning a person is not the only way to knock them out.

And Lee wasn't poorly built, just built differently -

List all the other places that when being struck, cause a KO.

And nowhere did I say he was poorly built, just that he had the bone structure of a sparrow and a weak lower body.

 

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MrWhippy, Im waiting for your explanation of how Mayorga could take those left hooks off Trinidad?