Poll: BSE 2020: Do you consider Beef safe to eat?

BSE 2020: Do you consider Beef safe to eat?

  • Yes

    Votes: 158 97.5%

  • No

    Votes: 4 2.5%
  • Total voters
    162
PlacidCasual said:
Did people actually die of vCJD from beef in the UK? I remember that at the time most deaths from CJD were to do with poor processing of blood products and people on certain treatments were exposed.
I remember the hoohaa about BSE wrt humans but it never seemed to come to fruition. Although stopping what was plainly a ridiculous and unsafe practice in animal feed was absolutely necessary.
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Almost 200 people died of vCJD (the type caused by BSE).

There's a bigger issue now with just bog standard CJD killing people which has been linked to the re-use of contaminated surgical instruments amonst other things.

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Was sure I linked this before:-
https://www.cjd.ed.ac.uk/sites/default/files/figs.pdf
 
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I wasn't able to donate blood for the entire time I lived abroad due to the risk of mad cow disease. That was a lot of O- blood missed out on.
 
Ice Tea said:
Maybe someone could think of a better topic so not to give the impression of a new outbreak , sorry about that.







What about Apple Sauce on Lamb? :D
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Hadn’t ever occurred to me, maybe I’ll try it, I love mint sauce though, I put it on pork, beef, ham, duck, plus I’ll spread it over roast potatoes and Yorkshire puddings, never had it on sausages though.
 
These diseases are always an inherent risk of eating meat as an animal can sporadically develop a disease like BSE which can be transmitted to humans, it's all a question of probability.

PlacidCasual said:
Did people actually die of vCJD from beef in the UK? I remember that at the time most deaths from CJD were to do with poor processing of blood products and people on certain treatments were exposed.
I remember the hoohaa about BSE wrt humans but it never seemed to come to fruition. Although stopping what was plainly a ridiculous and unsafe practice in animal feed was absolutely necessary.
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Around 200, there is not currently any processing of blood products implemented that can screen out CJD.

Between 20,000 and 50,000 people in the UK were infected with vCJD whether there will be another wave or not we do not know.
 
This thread is full of a lot of sick, sick people...

Mint sauce should only ever be used on roast lamb, new potatoes and mixed with natural yoghurt for use in wraps/pittas with chicken tikka or lamb kebabs. :mad::mad::mad:


:D
 
Jokester said:
https://www.newscientist.com/articl...uld-still-die-from-mad-cow-disease-in-the-uk/

1 in 2000 people in the UK have the prion based on estimates from removed appendices. That's ~32,500 people.
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Thanks, thankfully it seems unlikely to lead to a major 2nd wave. The last paragraph states:

"Fortunately, it seems these prions only develop into disease in an unlucky few. Even if only 1 in 2000 people carry prion, 6000 cases of vCJD should have developed in people making only the M protein by now."
 
I thought the reason no cows appear to have it now is that it takes time to manifest, and we reduced the upper age limit for cows entering the food chain
I was always worried about this since it doesn't mean the cattle don't have it, it's just not obvious
Haven't thought too much about it for the last 20 years though
 
I've added a poll.

When this all kicked off previously, places like McD and BK dumped boxes and boxes of burgers. A friend of mine was an area manager for BK and he gave me an unopened case of frozen whoppers which were supposed to be chucked away. They were perfectly fine and we had one hundred and forty four whoppers to get through which took a while :D
 
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Unseul said:
Thanks, thankfully it seems unlikely to lead to a major 2nd wave. The last paragraph states:

"Fortunately, it seems these prions only develop into disease in an unlucky few. Even if only 1 in 2000 people carry prion, 6000 cases of vCJD should have developed in people making only the M protein by now."
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Well, not quite - every case up till now has involved people that only make the specific M protein, but there has now been a case of someone who's genes make the two different versions (which I think is the more common variant) of the protein. There's a suspicion that because they make both types that the build up of the modified prion takes a substantially longer period of time, if that's the case then there could be a larger 2nd wave (though obviously not the 100,000s of people the press at the time were saying).
 
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