BSOD issues with recent upgrade

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Since i updated from a e6600 platform to i5 ive been having some BSOD issues

Basically when i play games (admittedly it only happens with one game so far cod waw) i can play happily for between 15 and 45 minutes then i get a complete lock up with garbled graphics and vertical lines running down the screen , unistalled the game and reinstalled a couple of times with no joy

I ran 3dmark vantage and 2k6 to see if it was the graphics card but it ran them both fine, checked on temps are card was running around 40c idle and and 65c load, the card is a ATI 4850 fitted with a neo vortexx cooler, ive tried three different sets of CCC drivers 9.8 9.9 & 9.10


so i looked at my CPU overclock and ran the machine at stock, again here temps are quite low 30c idle 50c load with H50 cooler, still i keep getting BSOD , so i slackened timings and its still doing it


obviously every thing is pointing to the graphics card but its played cod 4 and bf2 + mods fine and theres no issue in games like football manager or at desktop browsing, another worry was my SSD , i recently flashed the firmware so im wondering if that could be the issue so i moved the game folder onto another drive but it still BSOD so maybe i can rule the SSD out ?


heres my spec:

MSI GD 80 MOBO 1.4 BIOS
I5 750 CPU @ STOCK
4GB GEIL ULTRA DDR3
ATI 4850 @ STOCK
CRUCIAL M225 64GB SSD
640GB WD BLACK
860WATT PC POWER & COOLING PSU
CORSAIR H50 COOLING
WIN 7 ULT RC


heres the BSOD i get:




I dont know what other info i can give, any suggestions what could be causing this or how to find out what could be causing this ? :(
 
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Run Memtest86 against your RAM. if you get errors then do 1 stick at a time. As if it is not overheating then it could be your RAM.
 
Try moving your graphics card to another PCI-E slot, and have you installed any drivers recently apart from the ones listed?
 
no drivers that i can remember , just running prime 95 for an hour then i'll try memtest and moving pcie slots

thanks for the info so far :)
 
right well im having a mare with this , so i ran prime 95 for an hour and had no problems

ran memtest86 and straight away had issues

so on memtest option 1 (single cpu) my RAm will NOT run in dual channel mode once i start the test the pc restarts within seconds, so i took one stick out and ran the test again this is now in single channel mode, the test runs fine, exchanged the first module for the second and ran test , again this was fine so according to memtest both sticks run fine , put them both back on and ran test again, pc reboots within seconds ?

so i tried different slots DIMMS but still had the reboot issue

so then i tried the different options within memtest

option 2 (multi cpu) this just freezes before i run the test and i have to reboot

option 3 (older version of memtest 3.4) runs the test fine with both sticks installed running dual channel


So i really dont know whats going on right now, ive just reset the cmos to see if it was some setting maybe i had changed but im still getting the same results


this reboot while running dual channel points to the motherboard perhaps ?
 
Looks like it could be memory related.
You could try running IntelBurnTest on Maximum stress level option as that will test processor and memory - will also tell you if there are any errors.

Maybe try a slight memory voltage increase with 2 sticks installed?

Try taking your case side off and setting a temporary fan to blow on your memory/chipset to rule out overheating memory/chipset?
 
just a quick update while im memtesting the individual pairs again, ive found that i was wrong where single/dual channel was concerned, i managed to get both sticks installed while in single channel and it still rebooted so i dont think dual channel is the issue

thanks phod, i'll try upping the volts and also Intelburntest, as for cooling the side has been off all day while ive been testing but the case antec 902 has great cooling so i dont think its a heat issue, but i will try it if al else fails :)
 
Ok so i upped the volts on everything and it still crashed memtest, ive ran intel burn test on high for 5 runs and it passed without a problem

Im running out of ideas, it passes memtest with one stick in but fails with two sticks in.yet both sticks are fine according to memtest ? :(
 
ANDARIAL said:
Can you borrow 2 sticks of ram from someone to try?
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No i dont know anyone else with DDR3 :(

with regard to reinstall no i havent actually, but im expecting win 7 to drop thru my door tomorrow so i'll be doing a clean install then
 
BTW are you using MemTest86+ ?

The latest version of this is V4 available from
http://www.memtest.org

MemTest86 (without the plus sign) at V3.5 is known to reboot with 4gb and have problems with quadcores...

From Wikipedia
Known problems
There are two versions (or "streams") of Memtest86. One is simply known as Memtest86 (current version 3.5) and the other is known as Memtest86+ (current version 4.0). They both have almost identical screen appearance. The 3.5 version is known to fail on some (or many, or most) computers with 4 GB of installed memory (the failure results in a spontaneous system reboot soon after the program starts running). The Memtest86+ 4.0 version does not exhibit this behavior. Also, there is a single-core and multi-core version of the Memtest86 3.5 version, and the multi-core version has been observed to not function on systems with AMD nor Intel Quad-core CPUs.
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I'm going to hazard a guess, and suggest that's where the problem lies then. Have you updated the chipset drivers? It's always best to try a fresh os install after installing a different chipset board. I'm willing to bet there's absolutely nothing wrong with your hardware, and I'm also quite surprised nobody else picked up on this fact :)
 
I would suggest changing your graphics card to a Nvidia one. Ati are notorious for problems with their cards over heating and their drivers being problimatic. I have never had any issues with Nvidia graphics cards or it's drivers. Ati on the otherhand, even way back to the Ati Rage 128 GL 32MB card I had 9 years ago had over heating problems and drivers were hit and miss. Also if you ever get into 3D rendering graphic design stuff I suggest people stick to Nvidia due to better Open GL support and compatibility.
 
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phod said:
BTW are you using MemTest86+ ?

The latest version of this is V4 available from
http://www.memtest.org

MemTest86 (without the plus sign) at V3.5 is known to reboot with 4gb and have problems with quadcores...

From Wikipedia
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I didnt know that, i was using v3.5, i shall try V4 today thanks :)

If that works ok then i'll do a full clean install of win 7 and see if you are right coupe69

thanks for all the info so far , very much appreciated :)







EDIT: ok ran memtest v4 and the ram passed with no problems, so i think its safe to rule that out as the problem now ? i shall install win 7 fresh as soon as it arrives (today hopefully)
 
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A long shot, but have you disabled EIST, C1, and C3/C6/C7 states in the BIOS? Should be somewhere under CPU frequency/settings.

I have been having instability and BSOD with the P55 chipset and Core i5, with those functions enabled. (in Win XP and 7).
 
yeah they all been disabled, my win 7 retail has arrived so im guna back up and install it tonight and see if it cures my issue
 
I had all sorts of trouble when I upgraded to I5 and when using Prime95 to test it would fail after just 5 minutes.

Turned out it was the memory not quite seated correctly although it was fully in. Reseated it and that seems to have solved the problem.
 
Why is RAM so stiff to put in? Never understood since it's clipped at both ends. Watching your motherboard bend if you're installing inside the case is scary! My PCI/PCIE cards have always just slid in nice and easy!
 
ScottMC7000 said:
I would suggest changing your graphics card to a Nvidia one. Ati are notorious for problems with their cards over heating and their drivers being problimatic. I have never had any issues with Nvidia graphics cards or it's drivers. Ati on the otherhand, even way back to the Ati Rage 128 GL 32MB card I had 9 years ago had over heating problems and drivers were hit and miss. Also if you ever get into 3D rendering graphic design stuff I suggest people stick to Nvidia due to better Open GL support and compatibility.
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erm...... its a general BSOD, also HD4850 with custom cooler don't run any were near as hot as stock single onces would, and if it was the GPU you would know about it, all my crashes related to drivers (my fault) occur with dodgy pixels than lockup, for the programmers front, not sure about that seen ATI cards do it as well as Nv however you may want to use a NV card due to cuda ;)

I can say I hate Nv cos of the FX5XXX but I don't

OP if you can remember before you flashed your drive did it do this ? you can check this by using a normal HDD
 
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