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It's only Sky Sports and Sky F1 that keep me there. Also, maybe I'm missing something but a freeview HD box with recording features etc is not £50 ...

Can you not use the Sky box without a subscription for that?

I'm interested to know, as I currently live with parents and potentially just want the freeview channels and want to keep the Sky HD box for recording etc. for when I move out.
 
They disable all the recording functionality on the box AND your ability to watch recorded programmes, though it will function as a free view box with a few sneaky channels such as Dave nicely disabled as well
 
Who cares! Anyone that has the money to make a program or a film or an album can afford, from all the people that do bother to pay, to not have a few people pay.

If everyone had the same attitude as you, then they wouldn't be able to afford it.

Recently, I just emailed the CEO because they ****ed me around so much, and he pushed it forward.

Sounds like you have a major "I'm a special *********" entitlement complex!

Anyone on the BT Package, im talking full whack fibre, TV and phone - now ive the same on Virgin and im paying 80 notes a month, the only difference being having an extra box on Virgin that I dont use anyhow.

So with BT coming in at nearly 30 quid a month cheaper, im wondering whats the catch?

Have you included the BT line rental in that - which they seem to conveniently miss out on all their headline pricing?

E.g. their current campaign is "Broadband extra, only £6*/month!"

*Plus £16 line rental which almost quadruples what you actually pay! :eek:

Not sure how you're managing to pay £80 for all that?

I'm paying £16/month for Sky entertainment extra+, plus £22 for Virgin (granted that's only the 30Mb, but soon to be upgraded to 50Mb)
 
Now I know there are sub forums for broadband, tv and phone etc But this concerns the whole package, so im assuming its more GD otherwise im making 3 threads asking the same thing.

Anyone on the BT Package, im talking full whack fibre, TV and phone - now ive the same on Virgin and im paying 80 notes a month, the only difference being having an extra box on Virgin that I dont use anyhow.

So with BT coming in at nearly 30 quid a month cheaper, im wondering whats the catch?

The main thing so far is that ive to fork out 160 quid for activation and a new aerial, as our tv aerial is borked and i assume this new thing will make freeview worthwhile? (or whatever BT are giving me).

Now I reckon I can haggle that anyway and get some cash off to switch, so anyone else gone Virgin to BT and lived to tell the tale? Or is it full of regrets?

Have you spoke to virgin to get the price down?

At £80/Month, I'm going to assume you have XL-TV, 30-60MB Fibre and standard Phone?

I was paying around the same for that service.

I asked them to reduce the TV to M+ which is slightly better than freeview. They gave me M+ TV, Upped my Broadband to 100MB with same Phone for £55/Month.
 
Rang sky to cancel and they offered reduce my current package from £89 a month to £59. That's only a few quid dearer than BT now albeit with 12mb broadband instead of up to 76mb.

Ill probably end up staying as I've always been quite happy with them, apart my connection going down for 3 weeks last year whilst they faffed around sending me a new router but the problem was at the exchange. So it isn't just BT who are slow to fix issues :p.
 
Rang sky to cancel and they offered reduce my current package from £89 a month to £59. That's only a few quid dearer than BT now albeit with 12mb broadband instead of up to 76mb.

Ill probably end up staying as I've always been quite happy with them, apart my connection going down for 3 weeks last year whilst they faffed around sending me a new router but the problem was at the exchange. So it isn't just BT who are slow to fix issues :p.

This is always a good tactic to use on Sky. They fall over themselves to retain customers and usually offer huge discounts for staying with them for just one more year.

I have done it myself and also know a ton of other people have received heavily discounted subscriptions for threatening to leave, but obviously you have to be out of your minimum contract period first.
 
Freeview getting all the same stuff? You have to be kidding. Sky has a vastly superior channel choice, Movies HD Sports HD various Documentary channels and a bucket load more. On demand is very good as you can pick and choose a wide variety of movies and channels. Your statement there is a pile of poop.

Exactly, you can't get Wheeler Dealers on Freeview/Freesat, shame I really miss that show since moving to Freesat.
 
Exactly, you can't get Wheeler Dealers on Freeview/Freesat, shame I really miss that show since moving to Freesat.

Freesat is worse than Freeview. IE you dont get Dave, or any of the gold channels, or eden or anything like that. We decided to use Freesat as our ariel is not a digital one and we would have to have a new one installed, but it is not as good a Freeview in my opinion.

I cancelled my Sky to save some money, but I still have an active account. I pay £10.50 a month for the benefits of being able to use the Sky+ box, and it means I still get the seasonal discount offers and stuff too, so I will just have to pick the right time to start up a subscription again :D

Sky don't like people to know it, but you can cancel all of your subscriptions and just pay the above cost for maintaining the record, pause and rewind functions, planner functions, series link functions etc of your Sky+ box. Plus, as I said, you are still technically a customer, so can take advantage of customer offers and suchlike (even though they also like to pretend you won't be able to ;) )
 
I cancelled my Sky to save some money, but I still have an active account. I pay £10.50 a month for the benefits of being able to use the Sky+ box, and it means I still get the seasonal discount offers and stuff too, so I will just have to pick the right time to start up a subscription again :D

If you get a Friends & Family discount code from someone nice in the Home Cinema section, you'd have the proper TV package in HD for about £16 or so. You're getting a pretty atrocious deal as it is.
 
But some of us only watch the TV programs we pay to watch. You know - we don't like thieving things we're not entitled to watch.
So be amazed - I pay and I watch. I don't feel I'm entitled to watch anything and everything, especially those things I don't pay for.

Which is fine, but in reality you are paying far more for the stuff you aren't watching.

I will happily pay for certain shows on demand, but I don't see why I should have to pay £30+ a month to watch maybe 3 TV shows I can't get on Freeview.

I've tried subscribing direct to HBO just for those programmes and was told 'sorry we can't do that' you have to buy Sky Atlantic and watch the show 3 weeks later than Americans.

So **** 'em if that is the way they want to do business.

Freeview getting all the same stuff? You have to be kidding. Sky has a vastly superior channel choice, Movies HD Sports HD various Documentary channels and a bucket load more.

I was talking about the basic package, Sports and Movies are extra (and quite a bit extra at that). In my opinion (which I'm entitled to) there is nothing in the Family Package that isn't already on Freeview that i would watch (with Sky Atlantic being the only exception if I didn't download them).

I think for the vast majority of people, 95% of what you watch is on the main four channels anyway.

I pay for the privilege of watching a live Football match on my 50' Plasma TV while sat down with a remote I can pause when I get up to put the kettle on, I dont have to browse illegal sites which will no doubt contain malware and have to stream a rubbish copy to a PC monitor.

Great if you support City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea or Man U but not otherwise. As a supporter of a mid-table team I can watch EVERY game they play in a season, usually in HD, whereas I might see them 5 times a year on Sky if I was lucky.

Clearly you haven't watched a streamed footy game recently, this isn't a couple of years ago when it was mostly 240p and buffered every 4 minutes.

Sky TV is a viewing experience like no other. You pay for the service which is excellent value for money.

As said, for most it really isn't when the vast majority of viewers rarely deviate from BBC1 to Channel 5.

You get a HD recording box so you can remote record when out and about if you forget a programme is on, you get a very excellent UI and the ability to watch pause and rewind live TV.

Why do you need an HD recorder if their catch-up service is so good?

I had Freeview HD when I moved for a month and it was absolute hell. One you get Sky its very hard to go back to Freeview.

Well I went the other way. I had Sky but got rid of it after realising I was paying over £700 a year for something that I could for the mostpart get for free.
 
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If you get a Friends & Family discount code from someone nice in the Home Cinema section, you'd have the proper TV package in HD for about £16 or so. You're getting a pretty atrocious deal as it is.

Yes, when you put it like that my package is cack! :D

Good sir, please tell me who I must approach to get said amazing deal!?!? :eek:
 
Which is fine, but in reality you are paying far more for the stuff you aren't watching.
I will happily pay for certain shows on demand, but I don't see why I should have to pay £30+ a month to watch maybe 3 TV shows I can't get on Freeview.

I've tried subscribing direct to HBO just for those programmes and was told 'sorry we can't do that' you have to buy Sky Atlantic and watch the show 3 weeks later than Americans.

So **** 'em if that is the way they want to do business.



I was talking about the basic package, Sports and Movies are extra (and quite a bit extra at that). In my opinion (which I'm entitled to) there is nothing in the Family Package that isn't already on Freeview that i would watch (with Sky Atlantic being the only exception if I didn't download them).

I think for the vast majority of people, 95% of what you watch is on the main four channels anyway.



Great if you support City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea or Man U but not otherwise. As a supporter of a mid-table team I can watch EVERY game they play in a season, usually in HD, whereas I might see them 5 times a year on Sky if I was lucky.

Clearly you haven't watched a streamed footy game recently, this isn't a couple of years ago when it was mostly 240p and buffered every 4 minutes.



As said, for most it really isn't when the vast majority of viewers rarely deviate from BBC1 to Channel 5.



Why do you need an HD recorder if their catch-up service is so good?



Well I went the other way. I had Sky but got rid of it after realising I was paying over £700 a year for something that I could for the mostpart get for free.

You are posting a lot there that does not make sense, where did you get the 95% from? Who watches 1-5 anyway? Most If not all decent programmes are on the Sky platform, most of the channels on Freeview are repeat channels that play old content.

Freeview is ideal for somebody who cannot afford a Sky service or any other such as Virgin, I get an absolute huge variety of shows I can watch and record legally. Freeview dose not compare.

Only the big 4 on Sky? Sorry what a load of rubbish, my team Leeds feature a few times and so does a lot of clubs, you get a vast variety of Foreign Leagues too.

I need a HD recorder box because nearly all the shows I watch are in HD if some are not on catchup I can record them in that format.

£700 a year? I get the top package, 2 HD+ WiFi Boxes, Multiroom, Sky Go, can watch loads of content on the go, HD package and Fibre Internet, how much??? Around £50 bargain when folk spend that on one night out or a meal for two.


Anyway way off topic :)
 
You are posting a lot there that does not make sense, where did you get the 95% from? Who watches 1-5 anyway?

Um, pretty much everyone.

Sky One, which is Sky's most viewed TV channel (outside Movies and Sports) has a viewer percentage distribution of 0.9%. For context even ITV2 gets 1.9%

BBC1, 2, ITV, Channel 4 and 5ive combined have a viewer distribution rating of over 55%. OK so not 95% but the other 45% are by far mostly free channels available on Freesat/Freeview.

The Sky Only channels never reach even 1% of viewership. The only one that does is Sky Sports 1 which gets 1.1% and is their highest viewed channel.

Jeez, a week of Eastenders and an X-Factor episode get far more than the Sky only channels.

Most If not all decent programmes are on the Sky platform, most of the channels on Freeview are repeat channels that play old content.

LOL, I'd place a bet there are FAR more repeat only channels on Sky than on Freeview.

Freeview is ideal for somebody who cannot afford a Sky service or any other such as Virgin

LOL, Freeview is only for people who can't afford Sky :D

You keep telling yourself that if it makes that £800 yearly bill go down a bit easier.

I get an absolute huge variety of shows I can watch and record legally. Freeview dose not compare.

You can only watch one thing at a time though, you may have 'more content' but at no point do you enjoy more content.

Only the big 4 on Sky? Sorry what a load of rubbish, my team Leeds feature a few times and so does a lot of clubs, you get a vast variety of Foreign Leagues too.

I never said they "only" showed the Big 4, I said paying for the Sports to watch your team is only worth it if you support a big team. So how many Leeds games have you watched this season? 3, 4 maybe 5 at a push?

I need a HD recorder box because nearly all the shows I watch are in HD if some are not on catchup I can record them in that format.

HD and HD recorders aren't exclusive to Sky, you do know that?

£700 a year? I get the top package, 2 HD+ WiFi Boxes, Multiroom, Sky Go, can watch loads of content on the go, HD package and Fibre Internet, how much??? Around £50 bargain when folk spend that on one night out or a meal for two.

Well according to here (http://www.sky.com/quickbuy/new), the "top package" (i.e everything bar Chelsea TV/Man U TV) costs £64.25 for a 'limited period' followed by £72.25 after that. Plus you have to pay an £150 one off installation fee.
 
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Well according to here (http://www.sky.com/quickbuy/new), the "top package" (i.e everything bar Chelsea TV/Man U TV) costs £64.25 for a 'limited period' followed by £72.25 after that. Plus you have to pay an £150 one off installation fee.

If you're paying the advertised costs for Sky then you're doing it wrong.

I get Broadband, Phone, Entertainment, Sports and HD for < £50 a month.

I agree though, if it wasn't for the F1 and football, there would be absolutely no way I would have Sky.
 
Have you spoke to virgin to get the price down?

At £80/Month, I'm going to assume you have XL-TV, 30-60MB Fibre and standard Phone?

I was paying around the same for that service.

I asked them to reduce the TV to M+ which is slightly better than freeview. They gave me M+ TV, Upped my Broadband to 100MB with same Phone for £55/Month.

Yeah came on to post that Virgin chopped my bill by 20 quid.

My pack is XL TV, 152MB Broadband, Anytime Calls Telephone... so I mean 80 quid want bad I suppose, but for the same thing BT was coming in at 56.

The only change from Virgin is - getting rid of my upstairs box, its not been used in 2 years tbh, so I was wasting money on that... and a plus is that I get the Superhub 2... dunno what that is or if its good, but im getting it.

I do have TIVO as well, so id have probably missed the TV side of things.

Anyway cant grumble now, 60 notes is fair enough.
 
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