Budget of £1600, help with build ideas

[footwo]

Hi folks

I need to buy a new rig and I was just gonna go for the Ultima Tyrannosaur that OC are offering since I cant be bothered building a system at the moment.

However just in case, I'd like some ideas for a gaming system within a budget of about £1600.

I already have a SSD (Vertex 3) as my boot drive in my current system so I'd be transplanting that into the new rig. I don't need monitors or anything like that, just a base system.

If anyone could offer any help it would be much appreciated, I've fallen a bt out of touch with stuff lately so I'm not sure what's good and what to avoid

Is it worth just modifying some of the parts of the Tyrannosaur to tweak it a bit? I don't mind going slightly over budget.

Thanks for any help.

 

[R088ieS86]

How about windows, have you got a copy of that?

That would that the Tyrannosaur to £1679.98 before shipping.

For that you can have an epic gaming rig:

Transplanting your Vertex in for a boot drive:

YOUR BASKET
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 580 OC Twin FrozR II 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £349.98 (£699.96)
1 x Corsair Professional Series HX1050 Professional Series 1050W Modular Power Supply (CMPSU-1050HXUK) £179.98
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £167.99
1 x Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £145.99
1 x Samsung SpinPoint F4 EcoGreen 2TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD204UI) £137.99
1 x Silverstone Raven 2 RV02B Full Tower Case - Black £129.98
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.99
1 x Antec Kúhler H2O 620 CPU Watercooler (Socket Intel LGA 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / AMD AM2 / AM3 / AM2+ / AM3+) £44.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £39.98
Total : £1,644.55 (includes shipping : £14.75).

 

[95thrifles]

No need to spend that much really, for less than a grand you can get solid system, eg this


YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 570 DirectCU II 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £245.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £167.99
1 x Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £145.99
1 x Corsair Graphite 600T Midi Tower Case - Black £129.98
1 x XFX 850W Black Edition Modular '80 Plus Silver' Power Supply £122.99
1 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £49.99
1 x Antec Kúhler H2O 620 CPU Watercooler (Socket Intel LGA 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / AMD AM2 / AM3 / AM2+ / AM3+) £44.99
1 x Pioneer 24x Internal DVR-S19LBK DVD Rewriter including Labelflash - Retail £18.98
Total : £943.40 (includes shipping : £13.75).




i7 offers nothing over i5 in terms of gaming
570 is almost as good as a 580 at a fraction of the cost
Gen3 mobo so an element of "future proofing"
850W PSU would support a 2nd 570 for SLi if required

 

[fowler002]

No need to spend that much really, for less than a grand you can get solid system, eg this


YOUR BASKET
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 570 DirectCU II 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £245.99
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £167.99
1 x Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £145.99
1 x Corsair Graphite 600T Midi Tower Case - Black £129.98
1 x XFX 850W Black Edition Modular '80 Plus Silver' Power Supply £122.99
1 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £49.99
1 x Antec Kúhler H2O 620 CPU Watercooler (Socket Intel LGA 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / AMD AM2 / AM3 / AM2+ / AM3+) £44.99
1 x Pioneer 24x Internal DVR-S19LBK DVD Rewriter including Labelflash - Retail £18.98
Total : £943.40 (includes shipping : £13.75).




i7 offers nothing over i5 in terms of gaming
570 is almost as good as a 580 at a fraction of the cost
Gen3 mobo so an element of "future proofing"
850W PSU would support a 2nd 570 for SLi if required

you can save another £10 by getting http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-300-CS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1517 no need to worry about fin interference if getting the antec kuhler 620

850w will support 580 sli so no need for 1kw, think 750w is enough for 570 sli.

can save £9 by getting http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-054-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat= corsair so will go with the case

you can save another £46 by getting the gigabyte z68xp-ud3, doesn't have the bell and whistles of the extreme4 gen3 but with a bios update it will have ivybridge and pci-e 3.0 support in the first pci-e x16 slot(this has to do with the ivybridge control, all board that will have bios update to support ivybridge will get pci-e 3.0 support in the 1st slot from what stulid has said).

 

[95thrifles]

Read this
Its generally best to do your own research when advising others, other than simply reposting what someone else has said

 

[fowler002]

oh that old argument between msi and gigabyte
there's a thread covering that in the motherboard section.

 

[95thrifles]

oh that old argument between msi and gigabyte
there's a thread covering that in the motherboard section.

So if you're aware of the debate, why are you posting things like

you can save another £46 by getting the gigabyte z68xp-ud3, doesn't have the bell and whistles of the extreme4 gen3 but with a bios update it will have ivybridge and pci-e 3.0 support in the first pci-e x16 slot(this has to do with the ivybridge control, all board that will have bios update to support ivybridge will get pci-e 3.0 support in the 1st slot from what stulid has said).

Which is dubious at best?

 

[fowler002]

I'll let stulid explain it in lamans terms you can understand

 

[stulid]

Depends on the board, if its a cheaper one that uses no switches at all and always remains at 16X/4X then the 16X lanes are directly connected to the CPU socket.

If its a 8X/8X switching SLI/Crossfire board, then 8 lanes are directly connected to the CPU socket, the other 8 go to switches that then give you 16X to the top slot or 8X to the second slot if a card is detected. (so thats 8X pci-e3.0)

This doesnt include every board, I think theres one or two exceptions.

And also this is for Gigabyte boards, others may do things differently.

 

[95thrifles]

I'll let stulid explain it in lamans terms you can understand

I actually find that quite offensive, as such Ive trusted my reply to you
Take the advice

 

[fowler002]

I actually find that quite offensive, as such Ive trusted my reply to you
Take the advice

more name calling than advice

 

[footwo]

Blimey, didn't want to start a slanging match, take it easy fowler

I already have Windows so I wont need to order that. I'm liking the look of this recommendation, although I think I'd drop the water cooler, I've never had to use them before and don't really see the need for them:

How about windows, have you got a copy of that?

That would that the Tyrannosaur to £1679.98 before shipping.

For that you can have an epic gaming rig:

Transplanting your Vertex in for a boot drive:

YOUR BASKET
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 580 OC Twin FrozR II 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £349.98 (£699.96)
1 x Corsair Professional Series HX1050 Professional Series 1050W Modular Power Supply (CMPSU-1050HXUK) £179.98
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £167.99
1 x Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £145.99
1 x Samsung SpinPoint F4 EcoGreen 2TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD204UI) £137.99
1 x Silverstone Raven 2 RV02B Full Tower Case - Black £129.98
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.99
1 x Antec Kúhler H2O 620 CPU Watercooler (Socket Intel LGA 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / AMD AM2 / AM3 / AM2+ / AM3+) £44.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £39.98
Total : £1,644.55 (includes shipping : £14.75).

I like the sound of twin 580's

 

[95thrifles]

more name calling than advice

I suggested you stop trying to be a "clever" **** (rhymes with bat) given your advice in this and other posts has been somewhat eroneous, that in itself is advice, I then went on to again suggest you research things yourself rather than take everything Stulid says as Gospel, I acknowledge Stulid is very knowledgable but no one person knows all. I did not call you any names, merely said at start you were trying to act like one and should stop. Just so others have an appreciation of what was said
Im not going to reply to anything you write anymore as youre not worth my time to type

 

[95thrifles]

Apologies to the OP for sidetracking your thread, it is indeed a reasonable spec, though OTT in my opinion, Id suggest you try single card initially and add a 2nd later if needs be

 

[fowler002]

not the best time to be spending that much on graphics cards at the moment with the new cards due out soon, but if you still want to go that route 850w psu will be more than enough.

and 95thrifles I'm sorry if you don't agree with my advice there but people who know more than me about psu and graphics card power usage have said 850w is enough, plus I've looked at card reviews with power usage charts. oh and actually I don't care if you agree or not

 

[stulid]

http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/PCIe3_Ready/

Thats ASUS take on it.

 

[footwo]

Apologies to the OP for sidetracking your thread, it is indeed a reasonable spec, though OTT in my opinion, Id suggest you try single card initially and add a 2nd later if needs be

No worries, thanks for taking the time to respond.

So you reckon SLi ain't worth it?

 

[95thrifles]

Unless youre using 3d screen or really high res, eg 2560 then its overkill, in my opinion
As I say if youre getting a top end card Id try just one initially, it should be more than enough, if for some reason youre finding its not you can always add the 2nd card later
Having had dual cards in my previous rig I do speak from experience, also in that experience I found that 2 high end cards sat next to each other resulted in heating each other up which in turn resulted in significantly more noise as they worked harder to try and cool themselves back down, again in my opinion, this resulting heat & noise increase outweighed the performance gain, though this is subjective I realise

 

[R088ieS86]

not the best time to be spending that much on graphics cards at the moment with the new cards due out soon

Not always true, yes the release date is supposed to be Jan (for the worthwhile AMD cards), but we know things can get pushed back. Also availability on release tends to be an issue unless your the first in there.

As regards to heat, if the cards are placed in a normal case then yes I agree the top card heats up like no ones business.
Not the case in the case (haha) I recommended. Each card gets the same amount of air from the intakes at the bottom before expelling it out of the top.
But as 95thrifles said, If you running a single screen @ 1920x1080 it is massively OTT.

 

[footwo]

OK one card it is then.

I've been using the configurator (Intel 10200i) on the website and I've come up with this:

Case (may change to a snazzier one):

CPU:

Cooler:

Motherboard:

RAM:

Graphics:

HDD:

Optical:

PSU (850 is out of stock):

Comes in at 1424.69

What do you think?