Building a Linux box

Do you trust these cheap boxes for security and having a flaky bios?

In terms of the BIOS, you run the risk as you do with all of the bigger companies. Unless you can get coreboot/libreboot on it etc. I remember Lenovo with Superfish, NSA backdoor requests to Dell etc. Whether or not they have them in or not I don't know. Even IME running on minix on every Intel CPU is a security 'concern'

I'm pro-security, but you kind of have to go full Stallman to get away from any of these concerns. I've just bought a BeeLink SER8 for a mini pc and have another older BeeLink running OpenBSD and vmm/vmd in the lab, never seen anything super concerning, but definitely wouldn't run the included Windows install these mini PCs come with. I know a few have had some dubious programs, crypto-miners, dodgy defender settings etc, but always wipe them.
 
Pre-loved ex corporate mini machines. Dell or HP are my go to but I would aim for an 8th gen Intel CPU as the oldest. Bags of power compared to single board things and usually the idle power isn't a long way off them either.
 
Pre-loved ex corporate mini machines. Dell or HP are my go to but I would aim for an 8th gen Intel CPU as the oldest. Bags of power compared to single board things and usually the idle power isn't a long way off them either.


This.. depending on what you are using it for

@Ice Tea are you building a desktop/office machine? media /file server? will you be wanting to play games on it, etc, etc.
 
Sorry for not articulating the topic very well.

I wanted to start a general discussion on the hardware people use for their builds, whatever the purpose they had in mind.

Most Linux sections of forums tend to be about software, so I thought it would be interesting to cover the hardware side of things.
 
Sorry for not articulating the topic very well.

I wanted to start a general discussion on the hardware people use for their builds, whatever the purpose they had in mind.

Most Linux sections of forums tend to be about software, so I thought it would be interesting to cover the hardware side of things.

Pre-loved ex corporate mini machines. Dell or HP are my go to but I would aim for an 8th gen Intel CPU as the oldest. Bags of power compared to single board things and usually the idle power isn't a long way off them either.

:D
 
If i was to go for a mini-pc i would probably go for a Dell USFF, as long as the tiny laptop fan doesn't get annoying when they ramp up.
 
The other place I tend to build Linux builds is as VM's. Most sites I handle have some form of virtual host as does my work lab so it's easiest to spin up a little Xubuntu to do some linux'ing.
 
I did a gaming build. Stuck to AMD platform (AM4) and GPU and it’s been breezy. Mini-ITX form factor. NixOS as a base then just Steam, Proton/Wine and Lutris. GNOME/Wayland has also supported VRR on the setup too for a while. Very happy with it all.
 
One downside I've noticed to this BeeLink box, the wifi performance is absolutely shocking, and it looks like it's a fairly normal issue.

I didn't test the performance on Windows, but alas until I get the cabling wired up from downstairs, this won't be able to work for my daily driver. I actually ran into a problem trying to download from a repo with curl timeout (Operation too slow) which was interesting.

Fortunately, I still have my trusty mini-itx build, but it's footprint is significantly larger than this. But it has much better wifi.
 
One downside I've noticed to this BeeLink box, the wifi performance is absolutely shocking, and it looks like it's a fairly normal issue.

I didn't test the performance on Windows, but alas until I get the cabling wired up from downstairs, this won't be able to work for my daily driver. I actually ran into a problem trying to download from a repo with curl timeout (Operation too slow) which was interesting.

Fortunately, I still have my trusty mini-itx build, but it's footprint is significantly larger than this. But it has much better wifi.

That's one reason to choose a relativley modern ex-office refurb PC over a 'designer' ultra SFF box - you can upgrade the hardware just like a windows PC if you want to.

It's a bigger box though, so it really depends whatyou want.
 
That's one reason to choose a relativley modern ex-office refurb PC over a 'designer' ultra SFF box - you can upgrade the hardware just like a windows PC if you want to.

It's a bigger box though, so it really depends whatyou want.

Yeah I've got a perfectly fine rig built in a NZXT H1, which is obviously much bigger than these mini PCs, and I could transplant the innards into a much smaller ITX case, other than the fact I despise building in them. Although on this model the wifi is upgradeable, it's not all on-board soldered stuff.

I am re-wiring the house soon, so will be flooding each room with cat 6, but alas that could take a while yet. This can go into the mini rack to be another box in the lab.
 
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