Building A New Computer?

ZeroCPI

ZeroCPI

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So i decided a few days ago to make it my project to build a new computer, i've never built a computer before so i've decided that i would start reading up about it first understanding what the different terms meant, getting to know what parts are good/what arn't. i've tried to research but anyway what really made me decide to start making a new one is the fact that my current pc can't play any games at all without crashing its really annoying so i decided that i would go fullhog and maybe splash out on a setup where i could improve it if i wanted to but also get enough performance to run all the good games and do anything else

i figured that if i got one of the new i7 processors then i could use software from the likes of gigabyte or Asus until i really got full knowledge of overclocking the new line of processors (and thus making sure i don't destroy the damn thing)

anyway im going to post my list and if you guys could simply advise me on if theres anything you would really change, keep in mind that im going for a quiet-high powered machine & also im not an expert thats why these parts should be pretty simple to fit together.

CPU: i7 Processor (not sure what one)
CPU Cooling:CORSAIR H50
GPU: I havent decided yet but im thinking somthing with value & stock fans.
Motherboard:Asus Motherboard Sabertooth X58 Core i7 LGA1366 DDR3 ATX - 5
PSU:Coolmasters Silent Pro Gold 1000W
RAM: has to be DDR3 i was thinking of something made from Gskill.

My biggest worries are perhaps the motherboard and also if the cooling in this system will be enough, i was thinking of buying a large Towercase for the extra airflow. an expensive name brand will most likely have some stock fans i could use?

Any suggestions/thoughts/criticism is welcome but please remember im not very experienced at Pc-building Or overclocking.
 
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Ram brand really doesn't affect performance, stock fans are way too loud, my gpu sounds like a jet engine powering up and 1000W psu is way overkill.
 
Wrong place to be honest, would be best placed in general hardware, hopefully a mod will move it from general discussion.

If your current PC is crashing you should work out why and fix it.

You won't destroy the processor when you're overclocking it as long as you're at least slightly careful.

Why the i7 CPU? What made you choose that over something else?
Why the Corsair H50. It's no better than a decent air cooler and significantly more expensive. All it does is move the heat to the side of the case before the fans goes over the heatsink.
Lots of GPU have value... :)
Why that motherboard and not another?
PSU - Horrible choice of PSU. Way over the top. You could get a more efficient, better PSU with a more suitable watt rating for much less.
RAM - Don't spend too much on RAM, you don't see a great benefit from chasing lower latency/higher speed.

Edit : You need to state the purpose of the PC, and how much you want to spend and people will be able to help more.
 
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Sorry i didnt know really where to place this thread, i didnt see an hardware forum just individual parts

@halk
i choose the i7 because thats the best processor line that fits the current generation of motherboard sockets?? Atleast i thought, although now you mention it im not really sure about processors because the new i7 range has actually supposedly changed the way you overclock so im unsure.

The corsair H50 because while it performs as good as most aircoolers if not better it should be significantly less loud & also pretty easy to fit together as it comes Pre-looped

PSU; that specific model has a 90% efficiency rating which i thought was good, in addition it is suppose to have less than 40db so i thought that getting the 1000W one would mean if i did want to upgrade to SLI or Crossfire in the future it could Handel my energy needs

Edit: i agree on trying to fix this current Pc's Problem but at the same time i would have to replace most parts to get high enough performance and so i thought i should just use this one for normal things like browsing the web and instead build a separate more powerful pc. the problem is i dont want to go tinkering around this one because its my only one & i simply can't live without the internet so making a simple mistake could wreck everything

Edit: if you really think im making a big here then please feel free to give me some suggestions, Cost isn't an issue(for the most-part) but overall im looking to spend no-more than perhaps 1500 Sterling overall
 
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Ok.... :)

i7 isn't necessarily the best processor for you. It really depends on how much you're spending. You may for example be better off with a different processor if it means being able to spend more on the graphics card.

You need to understand how the H50 works to realise what it is. Heat leaves the CPU into the waterblock and is taken to the radiator, where a fan blows on it. With a normal air cooler heat leaves the CPU into the heatsink where a fan blows on it. Sure there's water in it, but it's a very expensive air cooler, you get none of the watercooling benefits, since it still uses the same fan you would use on a normal cooler.

You need a 300W PSU for the spec you've mentioned so far. If you want a high power graphics card then you'll need to go to 500W. If you want SLI and/or crossfire then a very good branded PSU at 620-650W would be fine.
 
i thought that the benefit from the H50 was that since the water conducts the heat and then travels into the radiator the heat source is further away from the CPU therefore keeping it cooler? also as i mentioned this should be less noisy than Heatsink/fans but thats only what i've read. i should add that im sitting next to a Jet engine. so thats why im focusing on getting a less noisy pc aswell

Thanks for the advice on a PSU. i do intend to get a good ATI Graphics card.

if you really think that i should change some of these parts what do you think i should replace them with? Perhaps now that i think about it maybe i should look into.Edit: AMD Processors?

Also if i was going to change processor in this setup then i would have to think about also changing motherboard would'nt i?
 
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It's not any quieter or noisier. It uses 1 or 2 120mm fans, which the decent heat sink coolers also use.

I don't know what you should choose because you've not said what the computer would be used for, and how much you want to spend.

I don't think you should change the processor and motherboard or RAM. I'm saying you might be better to do it.. on the other hand you may have picked what's the best option anyway.
 
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It's not any quieter or noisier. It uses 1 or 2 120mm fans, which the decent heat sink coolers also use.

I don't know what you should choose because you've not said what the computer would be used for, and how much you want to spend.

I don't think you should change the processor and motherboard or RAM. I'm saying you might be better to do it.. on the other hand you may have picked what's the best option anyway.
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it would be used for primarily gaming, perhaps video editing if i wanted to get into that sort of thing, im looking to spend 1000 pounds up to 1500.
 
He means on the graphics card - and I agree. Graphics cards with stock fans are horribly noisy. Watercooling isn't the answer, a good aftermarket cooler is.

Some graphics cards come with fancy premium coolers already on them. I know for a while there used to be Arctic Cooling graphics card coolers which were nice aftermarket coolers, and some graphics card makers started putting them on cards... but they stopped appearing. I use a Prolimatech MK-13 which is silent. However it takes up a huge amount of space, and I had to modify one of the heatsinks to fit it. I wouldn't recommend it.
 
how hard are these aftermarket coolers to fit onto the graphic cards.

also if i bought a Graphics card which came with stock fan(s) then how hard would it be to remove them and then attach the aftermarket one, i don't want to ruin a perfectly good graphics card simply because i was too zealous or didn't know what i was doing
 
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are you talking about those on the GPU or on the case? watercooling is a pretty risky alternative especially if your clueless about fitting it together like me , but i dont think i can stand the noise
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Some of the coolers supplied with retail CPUs can be quite noisy but then most of us replace them. I wouldn't be concerned about GPU noise as the current crop are quiet.You can still have quiet PCs that are not watercooled. Careful selection of cases and fans can give you that.

As mentioned before take this further in the hardware section. Ask away in the individual sections and when you have come up with a full spec post it in the general hardware section. Good luck with your build. :)
 
You do void warranty as soon as you remove the stock cooler, so you should avoid that if you're not comfortable. All I could suggest is reading reviews to find which come with the best cooling solutions out of the box.
 
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what sort of temp should a GPU idle @ or not exceed so that i have somthing to compare to?
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That really does depend on the card you are getting and it's not something to worry about. All the latest GPU built in coolers are up to the job they were designed for. You will see noise/temperatures in comparison reviews of cards.
 
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ah ok, i saw a rather nice GPU with some good reviews on this forums sales website so when my next paycheck comes in i might start slowly acquiring the parts.
 
If you want to spend 1K or more on a PC... and you can't afford it up front then it may be a bad thing to be buying. Spending that amount of money you're not getting value for money. You could get a very good PC for £700.
 
You are best off researching each individual component in its respective forum. Like case in cases, or gfx card in gfx cards. Get where I'm going with this?
 
Buy "Custom PC"

Go out and buy a copy of Custom PC, have a look at the section called "Top hardware choices".

Here you go, about £850 . . .
Case = Xigmatek Utgard
PSU = Antec TruePower New 650w
MoBo = Asus P8P67
CPU = Intel Core i5 2500K
CPU HSF = Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2
RAM = 2x2GB 1,600MHz DDR3
Graphics = nVidia GeForce GTX460 768MB
HDD = 1TB Samsung SpinPoint F3
Optical drive = Samsung SH-S223L SATA
Display = Iiyama PLE2208HDS-B2 22" 1920x1080
Keyboard & optical Mouse = Microsoft Comfort Curve Desktop 2000​
 
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