building a new work station for processing a vast amount of mobile mapping data

R9mpo said:
Yup all through business .
Just wanted to say a huge thank for your help! It honestly has made such a difference and pointed us In the right direction.

We will be ordering after Easter weekend so will see how it goes
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prices may rise a little or stay the same- again OCUK tend to do sales from wednesday to wednesday :)

If you can dig deep, drag a gtx 1060 for that Ryzen build! should be able to sell that rx 480 easily and means you can bring up a second system into the fold , with overclock to a solid stable 3.9ghz should be running at 90% compared to i7 8700k 100% score and the i9 7940x 124% score .

would also use less power so smaller work and be used on that system :)

in theory, able to claim or buy upfront without VAT - you'll be able to hit intel 18 core i9 7980xe within budget! as well as move up storage to dual 4TB or single 6+TB HDD.
 
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orbitalwalsh said:
Been checking through .lot of reviews builds and bench, 14 core is indeed the best, kept the 1080ti.. doesn't make to much difference over 1080 but in more cases of workloads , it's effected performance greater then the 18 core monster ! Also the second program listed , very few articles , seems more heavy on Cuda cores...

So, with further research, dropping to 14 core instead of 18, shouldn't notice to much difference in performance across all stages.
Gtx 1080ti so you can get max 60-70% boost at stage 1. *aorus card added - for heat and sound, and higher power phase count! again speed is key and should hold its OC for long periods.
Stage 3, listed second from top Samsung NVMe, this is retail drive so there are drivers for better support then using Intel's as well as faster times, seems you'll gain max 10% boost and reading everywhere , stage 3 is all about storage speed .
Ram also taken a slight step in speed, with core speed and Cashe speed overclock should gain the benifit, unlike gaming were it doesn't do much .
Silent case ! Silent beefy cooling !
Also, PSU got an upgrade * MORE WATTS! higher quality. 12 year warranty!

***sorry just redid this 2pm- underestimated the power draw of i9s when overclocked! 350w maybe for that chip at 4.4ghz

@R9mpo
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £4,070.54 (includes shipping: £14.70)


Should OC to 4.5ghz nicely without overloading the VRM and producing to much heat its self. board vrm cooling one of the best so should be covered .
Again, to get the best for your system, you'll need to overclock it ! As if not, Thread Ripper looks more attractive for pricing
Wished again could have kept the Gigabyte card for RMA, but that price is a steal !
***added the Gigabyte card- for £4k- you want the best RMA as a just in case​
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do i really need the 1300w power supply?
 
R9mpo said:
do i really need the 1300w power supply?
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YES!

If your not overclocking then you can get away with smaller unit....

just for a heads up. the 18 core 7980xe uses something like 500w Overclocked to 4.5Ghz

again to get the max from your chip and they OC so well! get the big power unit!

to be fair, with a decent unit- might be able to pull lower! just didnt want to under spec- not with this amount of case!

Seems prices have gone up slightly.... end of sales (Aorus 1080TI GTX)

could go 1000w to bring close to £4k mark . just keep eye out when hitting above 4.1ghz overclock to all cores with a watt meter at the wall, when system is under full load.
should help you adjust overclock higher or lower

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £4,004.54 (includes shipping: £14.70)​
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orbitalwalsh said:
YES!

If your not overclocking then you can get away with smaller unit....

just for a heads up. the 18 core 7980xe uses something like 500w Overclocked to 4.5Ghz

again to get the max from your chip and they OC so well! get the big power unit!

to be fair, with a decent unit- might be able to pull lower! just didnt want to under spec- not with this amount of case!

Seems prices have gone up slightly.... end of sales (Aorus 1080TI GTX)

could go 1000w to bring close to £4k mark . just keep eye out when hitting above 4.1ghz overclock to all cores with a watt meter at the wall, when system is under full load.
should help you adjust overclock higher or lower

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £4,004.54 (includes shipping: £14.70)
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perfect thanks,

would you recommend these over the others HDD?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seag...assassins-creed-pc-st4000dm006-hd-37y-se.html
 
orbitalwalsh said:
YES!

If your not overclocking then you can get away with smaller unit....

just for a heads up. the 18 core 7980xe uses something like 500w Overclocked to 4.5Ghz

again to get the max from your chip and they OC so well! get the big power unit!

to be fair, with a decent unit- might be able to pull lower! just didnt want to under spec- not with this amount of case!

Seems prices have gone up slightly.... end of sales (Aorus 1080TI GTX)

could go 1000w to bring close to £4k mark . just keep eye out when hitting above 4.1ghz overclock to all cores with a watt meter at the wall, when system is under full load.
should help you adjust overclock higher or lower

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £4,004.54 (includes shipping: £14.70)
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also any benefit with higher speed ram?
 
R9mpo said:
perfect thanks,

would you recommend these over the others HDD?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seag...assassins-creed-pc-st4000dm006-hd-37y-se.html
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if you can afford it and plus you get a free game then yes- wouldnt effect your work load as they'll be done off the NVMe drive, but when you move the finished article into storage, to load it up or other assets will be a little quicker .

seems from your work/program - you'll have all the images on the NVMe- run your program which is installed on the NVMe and finished article will then be on that drive and can be moved across for storage - along with the images if you wish to keep.

R9mpo said:
also any benefit with higher speed ram?
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hard to dig up, but generally yes with workstations - just due to the amount of data and images you'll be pulling through to feed a very fast and large thread CPU . question is - is it worth the cost...

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £599.98 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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these should be able to be overclocked to 3200hz with just changing the speed and manual voltage to 1.4v

stop gap for PSU maybe- cheaper then Seasonic unit thats 1300w but larger then bequiet 1000w unit at slightly more cost.

this kolink unit not to be confused with the budget branding name and budget smaller units!

https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/kolink-continuum-1200w-psu-review/

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £374.98 (includes shipping: £0.00)


again worth getting a gtx 1060 6gb for your ryzen render unit as well! losing up to 70% extra boost at stage one!

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £299.99 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
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should get £150+ for the rx 480​
 
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orbitalwalsh said:
if you can afford it and plus you get a free game then yes- wouldnt effect your work load as they'll be done off the NVMe drive, but when you move the finished article into storage, to load it up or other assets will be a little quicker .

seems from your work/program - you'll have all the images on the NVMe- run your program which is installed on the NVMe and finished article will then be on that drive and can be moved across for storage - along with the images if you wish to keep.



hard to dig up, but generally yes with workstations - just due to the amount of data and images you'll be pulling through to feed a very fast and large thread CPU . question is - is it worth the cost...

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £599.98 (includes shipping: £0.00)
​

these should be able to be overclocked to 3200hz with just changing the speed and manual voltage to 1.4v

stop gap for PSU maybe- cheaper then Seasonic unit thats 1300w but larger then bequiet 1000w unit at slightly more cost.

this kolink unit not to be confused with the budget branding name and budget smaller units!

https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/kolink-continuum-1200w-psu-review/

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £374.98 (includes shipping: £0.00)


again worth getting a gtx 1060 6gb for your ryzen render unit as well! losing up to 70% extra boost at stage one!

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £299.99 (includes shipping: £0.00)
​
should get £150+ for the rx 480​
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any problems with that ram and the CPU cooler?
Think we will stick with the 1100w be quiet PSU.
 
R9mpo said:
any problems with that ram and the CPU cooler?
Think we will stick with the 1100w be quiet PSU.
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ram should go straight in, XMP enabled and off it goes - some reason team group only list that model for 16GB Sticks


R9mpo said:
Assuming also the MOBO is absolutely essential?
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I've quoted Gigabyte for unmatched RMA and support on here - quick flip through and you'll see it .
as for the 7 Pro over Aorus 3 is due to the power draw. the CPU draw is spread over dual 8 PINS instead of a single 8 pin. if you've seen reviews then extreme overclocks pull 600+ watts just to the CPU so splitting that load over 2 plugs is always better etc etc . I know your not going to do massive overclock but still loading all 14 cores to even 4ghz , will still pull a lot of watt so best to spread that load. also the vrm cooling and amount is better/bigger to handle the heat .

this system should cut a lot of time off your current but it seems like it'll still be burning the midnight oil.. rather quote higher then lower - lot of hardware and £££ to **** up
 
orbitalwalsh said:
ram should go straight in, XMP enabled and off it goes - some reason team group only list that model for 16GB Sticks




I've quoted Gigabyte for unmatched RMA and support on here - quick flip through and you'll see it .
as for the 7 Pro over Aorus 3 is due to the power draw. the CPU draw is spread over dual 8 PINS instead of a single 8 pin. if you've seen reviews then extreme overclocks pull 600+ watts just to the CPU so splitting that load over 2 plugs is always better etc etc . I know your not going to do massive overclock but still loading all 14 cores to even 4ghz , will still pull a lot of watt so best to spread that load. also the vrm cooling and amount is better/bigger to handle the heat .

this system should cut a lot of time off your current but it seems like it'll still be burning the midnight oil.. rather quote higher then lower - lot of hardware and £££ to **** up
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to be honest im not really sure on how we are going to overclock just yet but best to have the head room.

on the ram we need to enable the XMP you mean?
 
R9mpo said:
to be honest im not really sure on how we are going to overclock just yet but best to have the head room.

on the ram we need to enable the XMP you mean?
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yeah- just in the bios you enable XMP- and will make ram run at its advertised speed. buy default all ram runs at 2133hz for DDR 4 .

your ryzen system will also be slow because of ram speed! ryzen is effect a LOT more then intel for ram speed- 3000hz being the sweet perfect spot for ryzen builds

with that Intel i9 it IS WORTH the manual overclock to make sure cores all run at their best - if not it'll run at 3.8ghz when all cores can easily be run at its max single core speed of 4.3ghz - lot of people push 4.4/4.5ghz - but you'll have to see how you get on with heat .

core speed doesn't sound like much but when its 18 threads x 3.8Ghz Vs 18 threads x 4.3Gghz it adds up

worth running a piece at default, then setting all cores to max single core speed 4.3ghz and seeing the task time difference

and remember, Pix3d likes speed as well as core count


R9mpo said:
any problems with that ram and the CPU cooler?
Think we will stick with the 1100w be quiet PSU.
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PSU unit is solid and unique to the market and very quiet...

https://www.kitguru.net/components/...-straight-power-11-1000w-power-supply-review/

the silent loop 360 will handle the i9 as one of the best AIO but those chips run hot due to Intels poor thermal compound between the die and the heat spreader, its not longer soldered on.

most extreme gamers/overclockers would have that system on custom water loop- but thats a lot of cash....
why i quoted silent case, even if fans need to go to max, should dull down the sound and they are quiet fans on top
 
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orbitalwalsh said:
yeah- just in the bios you enable XMP- and will make ram run at its advertised speed. buy default all ram runs at 2133hz for DDR 4 .

your ryzen system will also be slow because of ram speed! ryzen is effect a LOT more then intel for ram speed- 3000hz being the sweet perfect spot for ryzen builds

with that Intel i9 it IS WORTH the manual overclock to make sure cores all run at their best - if not it'll run at 3.8ghz when all cores can easily be run at its max single core speed of 4.3ghz - lot of people push 4.4/4.5ghz - but you'll have to see how you get on with heat .

core speed doesn't sound like much but when its 18 threads x 3.8Ghz Vs 18 threads x 4.3Gghz it adds up

worth running a piece at default, then setting all cores to max single core speed 4.3ghz and seeing the task time difference

and remember, Pix3d likes speed as well as core count




PSU unit is solid and unique to the market and very quiet...

https://www.kitguru.net/components/...-straight-power-11-1000w-power-supply-review/

the silent loop 360 will handle the i9 as one of the best AIO but those chips run hot due to Intels poor thermal compound between the die and the heat spreader, its not longer soldered on.

most extreme gamers/overclockers would have that system on custom water loop- but thats a lot of cash....
why i quoted silent case, even if fans need to go to max, should dull down the sound and they are quiet fans on top
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Sound brilliant thanks,

Maybe i should enable XMP on my home pc i have 3000mhz ram on my i5 8400 so maybe thats not running at its full potential.
 
R9mpo said:
Sound brilliant thanks,

Maybe i should enable XMP on my home pc i have 3000mhz ram on my i5 8400 so maybe thats not running at its full potential.
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When gaming it can beef up min frame rates, but for any mathatical / render workloads it does gain that little performance

Worth checking what speed you have in the ryzen build as well
 
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R9mpo said:
i will double check.

would this case be usable? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...w-mid-tower-case-cc-9011049-ww-ca-173-cs.html
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in theory yes, but is quite an older case design and would be louder due to fans and open design. If you like corsair then they have updated their D case range

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...k-tempered-glass-cc-9011116-ww-ca-23l-cs.html

can handle 360 AIO up front and glass insulated better then plain panels or acrylic windows .
Main reason why i spec'd the Pure 600 non Window- silence as not going to lie, when your start the process the system will get loud judging from heat load it'll put out and amount of power going through the system.
Most gaming PCs never get a PSU fan to spin above 50%... that will get it to 100% be at least its a bequiet unit with a very expensive £20 fan! haha

pro the most questest case on the market with good airflow due to have 3x 140mm £25 fans on it

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/be-quiet-dark-base-900-full-tower-gaming-case-silver-ca-11a-bq.html

but as you can see, corsair and this one starts to add on the Pounds

rival to bequiet

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/fractal-design-define-r6-midi-tower-case-black-ca-07h-fd.html
 
orbitalwalsh said:
in theory yes, but is quite an older case design and would be louder due to fans and open design. If you like corsair then they have updated their D case range

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...k-tempered-glass-cc-9011116-ww-ca-23l-cs.html

can handle 360 AIO up front and glass insulated better then plain panels or acrylic windows .
Main reason why i spec'd the Pure 600 non Window- silence as not going to lie, when your start the process the system will get loud judging from heat load it'll put out and amount of power going through the system.
Most gaming PCs never get a PSU fan to spin above 50%... that will get it to 100% be at least its a bequiet unit with a very expensive £20 fan! haha

pro the most questest case on the market with good airflow due to have 3x 140mm £25 fans on it

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/be-quiet-dark-base-900-full-tower-gaming-case-silver-ca-11a-bq.html

but as you can see, corsair and this one starts to add on the Pounds

rival to bequiet

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/fractal-design-define-r6-midi-tower-case-black-ca-07h-fd.html
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I think i will go with the orginal quoted one.

going to ring and order today including montiors etc today think its worth ringing for free delivery or discount on over a £4500 order?
 
R9mpo said:
I think i will go with the orginal quoted one.

going to ring and order today including montiors etc today think its worth ringing for free delivery or discount on over a £4500 order?
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would i be cheeky... damn straight i would! hahaha and hope you get a lot of haribo packets ! haha

would be worth quoting the post so hopefully they can see ! again this is going through business ? if so you VAT reg ?
as mention this on the phone and you'll be put through to different team and hopefully get VAT off at the start or afterwards if it is going through business
 
orbitalwalsh said:
would i be cheeky... damn straight i would! hahaha and hope you get a lot of haribo packets ! haha

would be worth quoting the post so hopefully they can see ! again this is going through business ? if so you VAT reg ?
as mention this on the phone and you'll be put through to different team and hopefully get VAT off at the start or afterwards if it is going through business
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haha i will give them a call and let you know how i get on.
 
R9mpo said:
haha i will give them a call and let you know how i get on.
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:) OCUK have damn good customer service - should be taken care of nicely :)
that and making someones KPI for a whole quarter! pmsl

I think with the cost and the power of the build, they would prob run through the components list - would have a feeling might mention PSU wattage but have a feeling due to AIO unit - not going custom water and what your using it for- slight overclock should be fine :)

unsure actually if OCUK wall power meter readers..
 
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