Building first pc!

eroche · Friday at 17:27

Hii! I’m looking to buy parts in order to build a pc, my budget is around £2.5k (including monitors) but can be more if beneficial . I’m looking for it to be primarily for gaming, is there any advice for parts as i’m unsure where to start

Looking for the best i can get for the budget

Gray2233 · Friday at 18:09

Are there any particular genres of game you prefer to play? Are you hardcore into CoD or WoW or is it more general?

If primarily gaming, what sort of secondary tasks do you intend to use it for?

edit: Regardless, this would play pretty much everything out with good performance:

My basket at OcUK:

1 x Sapphire Nitro+ B850M WiFi (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-SPR-05690) = £139.99
1 x Crucial Pro OC 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRU-02219) = £329.99
1 x Crucial T500 2TB NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRU-01090) = £259.99
1 x Phanteks AMP GH 850W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02519) = £104.99
1 x PHANTEKS XT M3 Micro-ATX Case, includes 3x 120mm Fans - Black (SKU: CAS-PHK-05735) = £52.90
1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02724) = £29.98
1 x Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPR-03983) = £650.00
1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £399.94
1 x Philips Evnia 34" 34M2C6500/00 3440x1440 QD-OLED 175Hz 1ms FreeSync Curved Ultrawide Gaming Monitor (SKU: MON-PHP-03331) = £548.99

Total: £2,516.77 (includes delivery: £0.00)

Included a 34" Ultrawide OLED, an ultrawide might not necessarily be ideal for the games you play but it's a preference of mine and I own a variant of the monitor I've listed. A more traditional resolution OLED such as a 27" 1440P can also be had for £400-500, or you may prefer to opt for a non OLED for whatever reason, I will say that OLED will give you the best image quality out of current monitor tech.

I've listed an M-ATX setup as again that's my preference, you could build a standard ATX for similar money.

There is the odd saving to be had here and there, but I wouldn't say it'd be worth it as you've a very healthy budget.

Craig_d1 · Friday at 18:25

I'd seriously look at prebuilt to compare prices

an example, someone just ordered this on another thread. i just priced it up and parts actually came in slightly more than the prebuild. not always going to be the case but with price of ram being what it is at the moment, it's not out of this world either

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-gaming-mach-5r-ryzen-7600x3d-radeon-rx-9070-xt-pre-built-gaming-pc-fs-pb12-ep.html

My only other suggestion is not to skimp on the monitor...that's the bit you're looking at all the time so getting something like a decent oled will really pay dividends when you have that great response time and infinite blacks

As above, but also, any idea what size monitor you want, 32", ultrawide, 4k or 1440p? It really comes down to personal preference..i game on a 42" oled, but others would find that waaay too big....32 or 27" are the general most common sizes now, and if 32", would personally choose 4k, 27", i'd settle for 1440p to get better fps

eroche · Friday at 20:40

Gray2233 said:
Are there any particular genres of game you prefer to play? Are you hardcore into CoD or WoW or is it more general?

If primarily gaming, what sort of secondary tasks do you intend to use it for?

edit: Regardless, this would play pretty much everything out with good performance:

My basket at OcUK:

1 x Sapphire Nitro+ B850M WiFi (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-SPR-05690) = £139.99

1 x Crucial Pro OC 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRU-02219) = £329.99

1 x Crucial T500 2TB NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRU-01090) = £259.99

1 x Phanteks AMP GH 850W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02519) = £104.99

1 x PHANTEKS XT M3 Micro-ATX Case, includes 3x 120mm Fans - Black (SKU: CAS-PHK-05735) = £52.90

1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02724) = £29.98

1 x Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPR-03983) = £650.00

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £399.94

1 x Philips Evnia 34" 34M2C6500/00 3440x1440 QD-OLED 175Hz 1ms FreeSync Curved Ultrawide Gaming Monitor (SKU: MON-PHP-03331) = £548.99

Total: £2,516.77 (includes delivery: £0.00)

Included a 34" Ultrawide OLED, an ultrawide might not necessarily be ideal for the games you play but it's a preference of mine and I own a variant of the monitor I've listed. A more traditional resolution OLED such as a 27" 1440P can also be had for £400-500, or you may prefer to opt for a non OLED for whatever reason, I will say that OLED will give you the best image quality out of current monitor tech.

I've listed an M-ATX setup as again that's my preference, you could build a standard ATX for similar money.

There is the odd saving to be had here and there, but I wouldn't say it'd be worth it as you've a very healthy budget.

Thank you! I will definitely look into these, primarily it will be used for gaming..which to be honest will be its main purpose, so the rest isn’t a worry

I initially hoped to have two monitors, but the monitor you showed looks really good in terms of image quality etc! And I hope to get into more hardcore games as with windows, steam will allow me to play them

Gray2233 · Friday at 21:12

eroche said:
Thank you! I will definitely look into these, primarily it will be used for gaming..which to be honest will be its main purpose, so the rest isn’t a worry

I initially hoped to have two monitors, but the monitor you showed looks really good in terms of image quality etc! And I hope to get into more hardcore games as with windows, steam will allow me to play them

If mainly for gaming twin monitors will have limited benefit, especially if you're hoping to use them to expand the overall game resolution.

The only real benefit would be having a secondary browsing window for Browsers/Chats/Discord etc, and honestly you could source a cheap as chips £20-30 screen for that sort of purpose.

I would recommend trying to be as expedient as possible in terms of buying the RAM and the NvME, and to a lesser extent the GPU. Memory and products utilising it have spiked in price heavily, and are only going to keep increasing in cost vs availability in the foreseeable future. I'm not sure how much stock of the RAM I listed is left, most new sets of 32gb you'll find online are closer to or above £400. Storage with NvME's have spiked heavily also, a week or so ago a comparable NvME to the T500 was £200, being those with DRAM, they're now almost all over the £250 mark. The GPU in question was £550 not all that long ago to boot, you have room to wait a little on the other items but don't overthink the three things I've mentioned too much or you'll end up spending potentially a lot more.

Craig_d1 · Friday at 23:22

Look at the kioxia below m.2 below. It's a gen 5 ssd for £219.99, so cheaper than a lot of the gen4 ssd's. Still 2tb, 10k read, 9.6k write with a 1200TBW endurance, so noight wrong with any of that. The nitro+ mobo actually keeps it's ssd quite cool in review, though can't remember if that was the atx or matx version @Gray2233 listed above is the matx board. the atx is slightly larger, has 3 m.2 slots and is wifi 7...above 2 slots and wifi 6E. other than that, the same...matx slightly cheaper as a result...if you go for atx, rember need to get a atx case, the phanteks above is mATX.

I would go test a ultrawide screen before you delve in, just to be sure

My basket at OcUK:

1 x Kioxia EXCERIA G3 2TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe 5.0 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-KIO-07152) = £219.95

Total: £219.95 (includes delivery: £0.00)

Gray2233 · Friday at 23:24

Craig_d1 said:
Look at the kioxia below m.2 below. It's a gen 5 ssd for £219.99, so cheaper than a lot of the gen4 ssd's. Still 2tb, 10k read, 9.6k write with a 1200TBW endurance, so noight wrong with any of that. The nitro+ mobo actually keeps it's ssd quite cool in review, though can't remember if that was the atx or matx version @Gray2233 listed above is the matx board. the atx is slightly larger, has 3 m.2 slots and is wifi 7...above 2 slots and wifi 6E. other than that, the same...matx slightly cheaper as a result...if you go for atx, rember need to get a atx case, the phanteks above is mATX.

I would go test a ultrawide screen before you delve in, just to be sure

My basket at OcUK:

1 x Kioxia EXCERIA G3 2TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe 5.0 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-KIO-07152) = £219.95

Total: £219.95 (includes delivery: £0.00)

It's also lacking DRAM which is why I prompted the T500, probably doesn't matter too much for a gaming build but I'd rate it over gen 5 speeds.

Craig_d1 · Saturday at 00:05

Gray2233 said:
It's also lacking DRAM which is why I prompted the T500, probably doesn't matter too much for a gaming build but I'd rate it over gen 5 speeds.

yeah, I get you, but modern dramless drives are way better than older ones (i'd be more concerned with the heat output gen5 drives give, but the nitro+ keeps its drives cool)... it's relative performance is upper middle, it can write 4gb/s for 435GB before it sdlows down, so s/b good for gaming. I have a sn850x as primary but use a nm790 4tb as my gaming drive (which is dramless). that pretty much wipes the floor with everything anyway(ther nm790 that is)

Kioxia Exceria Plus G3 2 TB Review

The Kioxia Exceria Plus G3 M.2 NVMe SSD is a fantastic choice for those seeking excellent value. Our review confirms solid performance that beats many other budget drives. However, it's worth noting that the drive tends to run a bit hot under heavy loads, so additional cooling might be required.

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downloadinbg games you'll be limited by your internet, andgaming is just read speed

Gray2233 · Saturday at 15:37

Craig_d1 said:
yeah, I get you, but modern dramless drives are way better than older ones (i'd be more concerned with the heat output gen5 drives give, but the nitro+ keeps its drives cool)

Yeah, they only really get hot when you do high sustained writes and both versions of the Nitro are covered in nice chonky heatsinks.

The airflow in something like the XT M3 is excellent too, which will certainly help.

Edit: That RAM is already up another £20, they probably wont get anymore future stock in for it either given Micron scrapped the Crucial brand.

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