Building new PC in a month or 2.

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As the title says, I'm planning on building a new PC in a month or 2 (returning to the UK). I'm reasonably happy with putting it together myself, but am trying to get ideas/tips on a solid build.

Budget is going to be somewhere between £1000-£1200 I guess, but will need to include peripherals and monitor(s).

It's going to be used for work, gaming and probably some amateur video editing/screen recording.

I was looking at going for a ryzen build, with a new b450 motherboard (I know they aren't released yet, but would imagine they should be by then).

Would like to be able to play latest releases etc, but not too worried if they aren't all at ultra settings 4k etc.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Advice?
 
Suggest you come back in a month or two, when you're ready to buy. What's best bang-for-buck now, may change when you're ready to buy.
 
Cheers, I know things can change, but figured I may as well start getting a skeleton of an idea together.
 
Some B450 boards rival or better x370 boards and a clear shout above B350 . Guessing with the information they had at the start of the year of TR2 having 32c using 12nm node for optimisation on 14nm die they most likely guessing Zen2 will be packing more cores or more Hz so have beefed up VRM .

Hoping it'll be a like for like with their intel B360 counter parts for pricing £70-110 which would be nice
 
Was also looking at the StoreMI thing.

Has anyone taken a decent look at it here? I was thinking of going with a 500gb SSD as primary, then just picking up a cheap 2nd hand 500gb from CEX for general storage. However if the StoreMI is decent, I thought perhaps a 256gb SSD with a 1tb hardrive might work out better?
 
Unseul said:
Was also looking at the StoreMI thing.

Has anyone taken a decent look at it here? I was thinking of going with a 500gb SSD as primary, then just picking up a cheap 2nd hand 500gb from CEX for general storage. However if the StoreMI is decent, I thought perhaps a 256gb SSD with a 1tb hardrive might work out better?
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depends what you use storage for , as it take a little while for the Tier system to work and worth using 2GB RAM cashe to . Faster the smaller driver, the more influence it will have , £78 Currently for 250GB M.2 NVMe from WB. and again, the larger the HDD the better as its more cost effective having a 4TB HDD then 2TB SSD etc

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/wd-b...-solid-state-drive-wds256g1x0c-hd-542-wd.html



worth doing research
 
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Unseul said:
As the title says, I'm planning on building a new PC in a month or 2 (returning to the UK). I'm reasonably happy with putting it together myself, but am trying to get ideas/tips on a solid build.

Budget is going to be somewhere between £1000-£1200 I guess, but will need to include peripherals and monitor(s).

It's going to be used for work, gaming and probably some amateur video editing/screen recording.

I was looking at going for a ryzen build, with a new b450 motherboard (I know they aren't released yet, but would imagine they should be by then).

Would like to be able to play latest releases etc, but not too worried if they aren't all at ultra settings 4k etc.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Advice?
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Howdy, mate,

Hell-o!

I would assemble this (with a case of your choice):

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,220.00 (includes shipping: £12.60)


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Wow, nice build for the budget! I've seen people complaining about 4k on a 24 inch monitor though? Everything is simply too small (I'm sure it can be adjusted though). Would hopefully be able to save a bit on a b450 motherboard come build time too.
 
Unseul said:
Wow, nice build for the budget! I've seen people complaining about 4k on a 24 inch monitor though? Everything is simply too small (I'm sure it can be adjusted though). Would hopefully be able to save a bit on a b450 motherboard come build time too.
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In Advanced scaling settings, there is this - change available to your preference ;)

 
Unseul said:
Wow, nice build for the budget! I've seen people complaining about 4k on a 24 inch monitor though? Everything is simply too small (I'm sure it can be adjusted though). Would hopefully be able to save a bit on a b450 motherboard come build time too.
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ditch the screen, useless for gaming, most games dont offer scaling for text etc and you'll be sat there with a mag glass haha , wont even play eve online with a 32" 4K monitor ...

get a solid gaming monitor if your gaming

another option to using Store Mi... just get a larger SSD for same price as NVMe lower storage model..

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £438.07 (includes shipping: £11.10)​
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Primarily it'll be a work computer, gaming will be secondary. No need for 144hz etc, I'm going to be very much a casual gamer rather than high paced esports!
 
orbitalwalsh said:
ditch the screen, useless for gaming

get a solid gaming monitor if your gaming

My basket at Overclockers UK:
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This anti-4K agenda goes really strong here, still... wow lol :eek: :eek:

Unseul said:
Primarily it'll be a work computer, gaming will be secondary. No need for 144hz etc, I'm going to be very much a casual gamer rather than high paced esports!
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For work and video editing, 4K is the way to go. For ergonomics, 4K is essential. Lower resolutions damage our eyes.

Unseul said:
It's going to be used for work, gaming and probably some amateur video editing/screen recording.
Would like to be able to play latest releases etc, but not too worried if they aren't all at ultra settings 4k etc.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Advice?
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;)
 
4K8KW10 said:
This anti-4K agenda goes really strong here, still... wow lol :eek: :eek:



For work and video editing, 4K is the way to go. For ergonomics, 4K is essential. Lower resolutions damage our eyes.



;)
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If for work, then depends on what's happening. If you get a small pointless 4k screen for office work, by the time you've applied scaling, it turns into a normal 1080p and if you snap multiple applications they are small and unreadable . Hence why we don't have 4k TVs under 40" as you'd have to sit 1m away and hope your not blinded if HDR .

If video editing that naturally you'll be after HDR to reflect what's you've actually captured . Night and day looking at HDR monitor to standard .

If it's photowork the. You'd what the highest Adobe RGB % .

And that gaming screen till has the better colour and brightness along with panel .

Costly, pointless if workload isn't based around images but damn pretty

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £711.58 (includes shipping: £12.60)


4K8KW10 said:
27" 2560x1440 screen has almost identical pixel density (108.79ppi) compared to a 24" 1920x1080 display (91.79ppi) https://www.sven.de/dpi/

Thus, making this 27" screen good only if one uses it to watch movies from a larger distance.
But, in no way, should one work in front of this.

https://www.eizo.be/knowledge/monitor-expertise/understanding-pixel-density/


I think the ideal monitor is 24" at 4K or 27" at at least 6K, if not 8K.
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20ppi is quite a lot, then when you factor in the actual pixel size of a 27" Vs 24" they are bigger . To many small pixels on a small screen means eyes can't visually pick out the pixels and you'll register then as a blob rather then The individual​
 
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orbitalwalsh said:
If for work, then depends on what's happening. If you get a small pointless 4k screen for office work, by the time you've applied scaling, it turns into a normal 1080p and if you snap multiple applications they are small and unreadable . Hence why we don't have 4k TVs under 40" as you'd have to sit 1m away and hope your not blinded if HDR .
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TVs are very specific area because if the channels put some text on the display, it may look perfect at 50" 4K TV but would look rather smalll and unreadable on 32" 4K TV.
Or it will be perfect on the 32" 4K TV, but large on the 50" 4K TV.
The consumer has no option to control the scaling.

But on PCs, we have the choice to improve this, and this is why higher resolution is always better at the same screens sizes: https://www.eizo.be/knowledge/monitor-expertise/understanding-pixel-density/


This is the difference in how UHD 4K (left) and full HD (right) appear at the same screen size. The photographs of the icons have been taken at about the same distance from the screen. With UHD 4K (3840 x 2160 pixels), the display is enlarged 200%, and with full HD (1920 x 1080 pixels), the icon is displayed at the same magnification. The size of the icons is roughly the same, but as you can see, the icon is displayed in higher definition with UHD 4K.

It's difficult to describe, but if you compare the display on smartphones, on which high pixel density display is common, with that of conventional low pixel density PC displays, you'll be able to see the advantage right away.
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You shouldn't have to scale ideally , everything should be native ideally . Don't want to scale up or down, get a screen the correct size :D

And with TVs you also have sitting distances as well. Sit over 2m away from 55" 4k and your eyes naturally view it as 1080p . Brothers colleague sends Samsung reps out to make sure resellers tell buyers facts of view distance as A) sick of people buying TVs and stating they can't see a difference and b) not bringing in the money for seller the cheaper smaller TV haha
 
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So that month is up, will start looking to purchase within 2 weeks.

Been reconsidering my options a bit. I've started to wonder if I'm not better off going with a b350 and 1700, but investing a bit more on longer term parts than I planned on doing so. Been looking at a 1440p 75hz ips moniter, I figure it's a decent balance between gaming and work, and at around £330. Also been considering a meshify c case, along with a couple of extra fans. Basically getting the bits that should last for generations in place, with the idea of upgrading processor and motherboard in another 3+ years. Thinking an rx580 8gb (about 240 for the cheapest), which should be able to drive most games if at semi reasonable settings I think?

I've built up the rough build in my basket (don't have the addon to put it here), and it's coming in a bit over budget, but some parts are available elsewhere (and the monitor is a fill-in and 100 over the monitor I'm looking at).

Thoughts?
 
Advice is to wait.
B450 boards are coming out soon, and you can get 2700/X with b450.
Also there's a 32inch IPS 1440p 75hz with freesync (for £220!) coming out at the end of the month
You can pair that with the rx580 8gb and that's you sorted for quite a while
 
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