Bulk Whey?

[WillSpengler]

I think we are at cross purposes, you seem to be arguing that any stress on the system is bad and im simply saying that stress in moderation in most folk is not going to be detrimental.

For example, alcohol again, if we take 2 people, one teetotaller and one guy who drinks in moderation most days. Are you saying that he will be any less healthy than the first? Because thats my problem with your argument, you seem to be saying that he would be tangibly less healthy because he stresses his liver more, however i contend that he wont. And again i stress the word TANGIBLY, as in would it show in normal circumstances.

I am not saying its ok to be an alcoholic as i believe the damage caused to the liver by alcoholism is far in excess of what the body can tolerate for prolonged periods. Although i lack the evidence i would suppose that the damage caused by excessive protein intake is far less.

Im not saying it is a definate thing. Im not saying it will cause one person to be more or less healthy. Im saying it could. Excess stress increases the chance of disease associated with damage.

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Wow, that's pretty hefty. Remember that you could be hammering your liver if you are taking in that much.

Its like what you say about steroids, sure saying they do no harm is crazy. But saying that they WILL do harm in the sense they will do long term damage is equally flippant. Sensible long term steroid use doesnt cause long term serious side effects in everyone or even most people who use them. It's only when that use is not sensible that things go wrong.

Also you are again saying that a high protein intake IS harmful when i am living proof that it IS NOT. And whilst that proof may be limited to me and my genetics it is proof that a human need not come to harm taking high levels of protein, which in turn means that you cant make the blanket assumption that high protein = harmful. as it is not, it is only in some people.

I wouldnt say that is totally sound reasoning. As you could just say that "High alcohol isnt harmful because it didnt harm me". That is the reasoning I was trying to get at with the thing regarding cigarettes too. It isnt a black and white thing here, it is an increasing risk. I don't believe I said anywhere that it WILL, i've always said it CAN. It is a risk that people should be aware of and too many people shun off because if it doesnt affect them, why should it affect someone else. That is also the ignorance thing i was getting at (again, in general, not aimed at you).

A couple more previous quotes:

Wow, that's pretty hefty. Remember that you could be hammering your liver if you are taking in that much.

I never said that it would affect everyone either, it is just a risk that is out there,

 

[Ultra_Extreme]

fair enough, youve explained yourself very well and as is often the case with debates such as these, whilst i come at things from a different angle to you i do agree on the fundamentals now that they have been clarified.

 

[WillSpengler]

Was a good one, nothing like a good debate to get the blood going

Like I said, it is just an often overlooked issue, just like people knowing the possible risks.

It is more an issue with people who are too daft to look into things themselves, will stock up on Maximuscle or Nutrisport and take the "more is better" approach without actually understanding how things work. (usually the same people who are also shy away from squats and have to do curls in the rack )