Bullies

lol have to go with 89 myself

you did the right thing tho t31os, and its good to hear that somethings gettin done about it now.

the best solution to bullying tho is not to allow urself to be bullied in the first place stick up for yourself and others you see in trouble. if you stick up for others the bully might leave them alone cos they have good friends.

i mind i was walking a friend home from school when these 2 guys were kicking his heels and calling him names etc.. They walked ahead and they both live in his direction. So i offered to walk him home, we got to the local shop and we saw one of them. He came at my pal with a metal chain thing round his hand, i stepped in and he walked away. We never said anything and his sister said "dont call him fat" :confused: Anyway, since then i aint seen them give him any more trouble.
 
I know people are going to go OMGWTF etc. but the only real way to stop bullying is to beat the bully at his/her own game. Telling a teacher/school just doesnt work, they don't have the authority or ability to do anything and it invariably just causes more hassle from the bully to the bullied because they 'grassed' on them.

In my experience (having been bullied at school) the only way I found to stop the bullying was to make the bully scared of me, usually by standing up for myself and hitting back. When they realise it hurts to bully you they usually stop (although 'wiser' teachers/parents just say it makes it worse as they get what they want WTF?? :confused: ). I know that isn't an option for a lot of bullied people -I had the advantage of being stronger and taller than my bullies- but it does work. It's just a shame I had to do it in the first place as the school really should be able to sort it out with stricter discipline and harsher punishments.

And t31os well done for stepping in, most people wouldn't have helped. :)
 
Most people don't have the luxury of being bigger then the bullies so that will maybe work in a small percentage of cases.

Hitting back isnt really a good idea either, because yes its giving them what they want, they're after a fight most of the time, and to engage in a fight is just as bad as ignoring it.

In my experience and from what i've read and been told it normally sterms to them being quite troubled people themselves, and although we love to hate them, they are in fact as much a victim to some degree and its their way of calling for help, unfortunately picking on others isnt normally read as a sign of calling for help.

I'll admit its not always the case but the best you can do is inform people and hope the people in the know can offer the kid help, because there's more then one person suffering, firstly the victim who's likely to be more scarred for life or seriously depressed etc etc..... the bully is also in need of help, punishing them isnt necessarily helping them........

You need to know what you did was wrong first, or as some may put it ' moral standards', without these a punishment is a deterant and not a solution.

All the same i wouldnt leave someone to get their head kicked in.
 
all my school done about bullying was put the bullies on "report", its was a red peice of paper where they had to get it signed by the teachers in every lesson, it didnt change them at all, as soon as they come off report they went back to their usual bullying ways :mad: what was the point in that? there were people getting stabbed aswell and naff all being done about it :mad: im lucky all i got was a bit of verbal abuse :(

from what ive heard, that school is even worse now, in fact in the news of the world a few weeks ago it was the 3rd worst school for crime in the country :eek: im not suprised though, some kid on the bus who went there shot me in the side of my face with a bb gun, on the bus! :mad:
 
The sad thing is a lot of people wouldn't do what you did. You definitely did the right thing but the police would only work if the kids parents were actually moral people and usually the parents are just as scummy.
 
t31os said:
Most people don't have the luxury of being bigger then the bullies so that will maybe work in a small percentage of cases.

Hitting back isnt really a good idea either, because yes its giving them what they want, they're after a fight most of the time, and to engage in a fight is just as bad as ignoring it.

In my experience and from what i've read and been told it normally sterms to them being quite troubled people themselves, and although we love to hate them, they are in fact as much a victim to some degree and its their way of calling for help, unfortunately picking on others isnt normally read as a sign of calling for help.

I'll admit its not always the case but the best you can do is inform people and hope the people in the know can offer the kid help, because there's more then one person suffering, firstly the victim who's likely to be more scarred for life or seriously depressed etc etc..... the bully is also in need of help, punishing them isnt necessarily helping them........

You need to know what you did was wrong first, or as some may put it ' moral standards', without these a punishment is a deterant and not a solution.

All the same i wouldnt leave someone to get their head kicked in.

I wasnt that much bigger than the bullies, I think its more the fact I stood up for myself that discouraged them. Most bullies don't want a fight (especially in secondary school) they just want to torment someone seen as weaker than themselves. Its a superiority complex not much more, yes some may have issues and may be 'victims' but most are just kids who havent been taught how to behave. Most if not all 'punishments' such as the report cards Flubble talked about are used almost as a sign of achievement by the bullies. I agree they should be helped but not in favour of them being punished, be that by a teacher or the person being bullied.

TBH from what you have said I dont think you have really experienced how bad bullying can be, maybe you had the occasional verbal insult but tbh thats nothing. Not wanting to go to school because you were picked on every day all day and and the teachers not being able to help now that is proper bullying. I honestly believe If I hadnt stood up for myself and hit the bullies then I wouldnt be the same person I am now. I could very easily have taken my own life, if not I would probably have been someone with no friends, no life and nothing really to live for. In case you think I am some kind of thug the last time I was in a fight was when I was defending myself from a bully in yr 9 (about 5-6 years ago). I am now probably the most anti fighting person I know.

You present a good case but its just a repeat of what has been said for years (the teachers said it to me at the height of it). It may be the most politically correct way to do it but as with most PC things its not the way that works, sorry.
 
my best friends little sister was being bullied when i was at school. by a group of lasses. the girl bullying was really fat. so i thought right ive had enough of this.

and i basically confronted the gang, and i picked on the main bully with so much degrading language it was unreal. about how she was really fat and was gonna die at a young age, awful i know, and if she did even bully adele again id come back, at this point she was in tears after about 5 mins of verbal abuse. and the gang tried to "attack" me by hitting me and dragging me away, me being much bigger didnt affect me. and i carried on with the abuse.

put it this way my best friends sister got on fine in school no more trouble she got. she was left alone, sometimes its best to confront and do the bullying back!
 
Do anything you can, bullying is evil people say its a way of life and growing up but its not, young children take there own lives because of it.

My sister was bullied to a point where it made my familys live a misery, it got to the point where she wouldnt go to school and my parents had to go into the school make them stop it, they did a lot and moved her to classes and brought all the bullies parents into school and said looks what your children are doing, it changed everything and my sister has ended up being better off than the bullies.

My sister would not go to school, she had to be driven to school, she ran away aswell, she even tried to jump out of the car to school, I was only about 11 when it was happening and it effect my school life, even to this day I would attack the bullies with no remorse for what they did to my family.

If my children are bullies or bullied I will make sure it stops, I know what its like to grow up seeing a loved one being hurt and pain it causes to other people.
 
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Bullies seem to thrive off of people with low confidence, self esteem etc.
ArmyofHarmony said:
Bullying never seemed to occur in my school, and mine has a reputation of being rough, but i dont know why cause it wasnt when i was there. Then again, I think we should probably just kill off everyone born after 1989, solve a lot of problems with chavs etc.
Sounds good to me ;)
VIRII said:
Corrected.
**** off :p.
 
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